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PurpleTail 12-14-2006 09:24 AM

ALPA Dues...???
 
FDX pilots...

Just checked the green screen for tomorrows paycheck numbers and noticed the amount held out for ALPA dues was extremely higher than normal.

I don't know the exact percent or how it was calculated but it was roughly 6.5% and NOT 1.95%. I plan on calling the union later but I have to get ready to go fly a trip.

Does anyone know the reason for this and if it was a one time deal. I didn't have time to check previous paychecks.

KnightFlyer 12-14-2006 09:31 AM

1.95% of your Nov bonus?

PurpleTail 12-14-2006 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by KnightFlyer (Post 92088)
1.95% of your Nov bonus?

Nope. I added my Dec 15th check AND my bonus together and 1.95% of that total was still LESS than what the union took out! Go figure?

org1 12-14-2006 10:12 AM

Farewell present to Woerthless?

42GO 12-14-2006 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleTail (Post 92084)
FDX pilots...

Just checked the green screen for tomorrows paycheck numbers and noticed the amount held out for ALPA dues was extremely higher than normal.

I don't know the exact percent or how it was calculated but it was roughly 6.5% and NOT 1.95%. I plan on calling the union later but I have to get ready to go fly a trip.

Does anyone know the reason for this and if it was a one time deal. I didn't have time to check previous paychecks.

What was it you were recently saying about disgruntled LAX Captains.....

skeebo2 12-14-2006 10:39 AM

Remember EFB demo desk in the AOC? Manned by volunteers, turns out they were paid. Argue this point as you wish. Name call etc. One way or another they did not do this for FREE.


We also had to pay for the contract party. You know the one with all the guys and their wifes toasting us,...can't recall from Vegas?

TonyC 12-14-2006 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleTail (Post 92084)

Just checked the green screen for tomorrows paycheck numbers and noticed the amount held out for ALPA dues was extremely higher than normal.

. . .

Does anyone know the reason for this and if it was a one time deal. I didn't have time to check previous paychecks.


I think I do.


Originally Posted by PurpleTail (Post 92095)

Nope. I added my Dec 15th check AND my bonus together and 1.95% of that total was still LESS than what the union took out! Go figure?


That's close, but not quite. You need to look at your 11/15 check and 11/30 check, plus your bonus check.



Look again at the IMS Pay Screen for 11/30 -- there will be two, one for your regular paycheck, and one for the signing bonus. Add the REGULAR EARNINGS from the normal paycheck, and the OTHER EARNINGS from the Bonus paycheck. Then, look at the Pay Screen for 11/15, and add in your TOTAL EARNINGS. Multiply that sum by .0195, and I think you'll come pretty close to what was withheld from your 12/15 check for ALPA DUES (found on the DEDUCTS screen).



Originally Posted by 42GO (Post 92116)

What was it you were recently saying about disgruntled LAX Captains.....


I said you were barking up the wrong tree.

You still are.



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TonyC 12-14-2006 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by skeebo2 (Post 92118)

Remember EFB demo desk in the AOC? Manned by volunteers, turns out they were paid. Argue this point as you wish. Name call etc. One way or another they did not do this for FREE.


I'd be interested in your source. I've talked to guys that did it that said they were volunteers. I've spoken to an LCA that did it who said he was paid. Could it be you've got stories crossed?






Originally Posted by skeebo2 (Post 92118)

We also had to pay for the contract party. You know the one with all the guys and their wifes toasting us,...can't recall from Vegas?


They happened to be in Vegas, working for us, when the vote closed. They've worked their butts off for us, I think they deserved a celebration drink. They're always willing to accept more volunteer help -- can we sign you up?




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Albief15 12-14-2006 11:40 AM

Those folks in Vegas were celebrating after a 4+ year struggle...that WE asked them to do.

My union dues were paid year one when I was offered a sub trip, broke out my ALPA (at the time FPA calendar), followed the RAT tree and realized I could decline the trip and still get paid. I did...and I did. I was home at 7 that night....that covered year one.

Year 2, 3, 4 could have been covered by any of the months I have been bumped off trips. Wanna hear how AA (APA) does LCA bumps according to a squadron mate? The FO shows up at the trip...only free when captain waives him off at showtime. I got bumped 5 days prior to my first show this month.

So...my block reps and negotitating committee got a hotel room and a steak off my dues? God bless them! If I get to fly with any of them, I'm buying them dinner too!

C'mon man...is 1.95% really screwing you THAT BAD? If you want to work at a great place, with great work rules, then union dues are cost of doing business. Lately...business at our MEC has been good. We are blessed. Why are you so so angry? If its that painful--join the budget committee and do what you think is best...but quit throwing spears at the hard working guys and gals who've done so much to make MY life even better this last year.

FWIW...and I'm not trying to get too personal here...but I tithe at our church. I figured out a long time ago that if I can't be happy on 90% of what I make, then I need to make some adjustments to my life. Learning to tithe was an adjustment--but once I looked at that 10% as "God's" and not really mine to begin with the transition was very easy. (If anyone wants to wax philoshopic about faith, etc....we can do it in a PM. I'm not trying to evangelize here...) The 2% that the union gets is THEIRS, not mine. Yeah...I earned but...but HOW? I earned it with great work rules, pay rates, etc that were negoatiated by union guys who had gone before me. Even in the pre-union days at FedEx, the work rules were modeled after contracts at other airlines that were negoatiated by...guess what...unions! So--its their money anyway--before I ever touch it.

Lets say you make 200k /year....easy enough as a captain at FedEx. Your 2% works out to 4k, so you clear 196k. If so inclined--share 19.6k with your local church or charities. That still leaves 176.4k. You won't even get taxed on the other 24.6k. When you started this gig---did you think you get by on 175k or more a year? If it galls you that much to give up less than 2 percent...then I'd say maybe you need to look at your own perspective.

Now--if its all about fiscal responsibility--then that's a different issue. You know the fix--quit pointing and start volunteering.

FR8Hauler 12-14-2006 11:52 AM

Exactly, who the hell cares? These guys busted their a$$e$ got us the best contact in the world and we second guess them now? Go count the money you made in the last month and then complain.


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