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Redeyz 01-26-2014 12:31 PM

Fdx. Deep south 757
 
I'm hearing rumors of the 757 taking over VCP triangle. I'm not sure of the veracity.

I'm hearing the MX in VCP has completed 757 training.

Since 757 has no RFO capability, crews would fly 1 leg, crew change, 24 off (3 crews- 1 crew per layover city).

However, Argentina's economy is entering meltdown mode again. So that could put the kibosh on that notion.

Any other info out there?

YYESIAV8 01-26-2014 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Redeyz;1567283]I'm hearing rumors of the 757 taking over VCP triangle. I'm not sure of the veracity.

Since 757 has no RFO capability, crews would fly 1 leg, crew change, 24 off (3 crews- 1 crew per layover city).

Why only one leg? The MD-11 was doing VCP-EZE-SCL then laying over. The SCL-VCP.

Wouldn't that rotation work with 2 crews? But there would still be some DHing involved and probably need 3 crews in theater to keep the flow going.

dckozak 01-26-2014 02:04 PM

I think any 757 flying would be handled as the 727 was. One crew, fly all night and do the triangle; rest for 36 hours! Cheers!
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Redeyz 01-26-2014 02:57 PM

3 crew vs 2
 
The duty regs for 2 pilots vice 3 pilots is more restrictive. The duty on the 3 legs is about 11:00 (maybe 11:30). Block is about 8:30.

2 pilot crew is not legal for that mission. MD could do RFO. But 757 has not rest facility for RFO.

flextodaline 01-26-2014 03:19 PM

It's a rumor. Ain't gonna happen. $$$ is the issue (as always).

MaydayMark 01-26-2014 03:37 PM

I've flown VCP-EZE-SCL in the MD-11 with only 2 pilots (WITHOUT an RFO). Why couldn't a 757 crew do that?

We had a layover in SCL followed by a deadhead back to VCP. The deadhead was very hard. Lots of "paperwork/visa" type issues. If you 757 folks end up doing this leg make sure to get the deadhead gouge.

Overnitefr8 01-26-2014 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Redeyz (Post 1567283)

Since 757 has no RFO capability, crews would fly 1 leg, crew change, 24 off (3 crews- 1 crew per layover city).

The 757 had an RFO on the charter to ANC that MM talks about in her Hangar Talk.

1st overnite 01-26-2014 06:37 PM

When I went to training in April 2013, I heard it was a sure thing starting in June 2013. Didn't happen. When I went to training in September 2013, I heard it was a sure thing starting after peak. Hasn't happened. I would like to see it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

BTW, I heard 2 legs with a layover and 1 leg the next night.

asiabased 01-26-2014 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by Redeyz (Post 1567358)
The duty regs for 2 pilots vice 3 pilots is more restrictive. The duty on the 3 legs is about 11:00 (maybe 11:30). Block is about 8:30.

2 pilot crew is not legal for that mission. MD could do RFO. But 757 has not rest facility for RFO.

No crew rest facility is required for less than 12 hours of block. Only an RFO. The MD11 doesn't have a rest facility on many of the aircraft. It just can't be put on a leg that blocks over 12.

renman95 01-27-2014 10:22 AM

I think FedEx should resurrect the 727 and let real pilots fly the Triangle of Death. There, I said it
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