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Old 02-25-2014, 01:10 PM
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ATSG is going to make some announcements next week.
You referring to the March 6 investor conference call to discuss 2013 financial results?
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:50 AM
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ATSG writing off losses and dry leasing planes. 767s going to west Atlantic and cargo jet. 75 freighters going to cargo jet. Only leaves combis.
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Is this official? Or just a rumor?
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Originally Posted by wetpish View Post
ATSG writing off losses and dry leasing planes. 767s going to west Atlantic and cargo jet. 75 freighters going to cargo jet. Only leaves combis.
Bummer, it'll be interesting to see how all those morons in ILN will be supported with only the combis operating

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Old 03-06-2014, 10:26 AM
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Is this official? Or just a rumor?
It's official. Listen to the conference call.
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Sounds pretty far-fetched. Maybe we could embellish this rumor further and say the combis and their contracts are going to National and then the airline will shut down?
I don't think he said anything about the combis. I agree with you that once the 767s and 757 freighters are gone, there will not be enough business left to support the overhead. One of the investors tried to ask that question and Joe was evasive. May something like you suggest is in the works. It woudnt surprise me. Maybe ey could lease the combis to National. They fit in better there than at ATSG.

It sounds like the 767s and the 757 freighters are gone. That only leaves work for three planes. All legacy ATI.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:42 PM
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It's official. Listen to the conference call.
Dang...... I figured the airline would be kept for the combi flying (as I've said before) but dumping everything else is a shock to me. I figured two 757Fs and at least one 767 would be kept. Cargo jet came out of left field (but unfortunately it does make sense since it will simply be a turnkey type of deal once the airplanes are re-registered).

Basically the "cornfield crew" just wasted the FAA's time over the last 24 months. Such a shame all, good luck to those who aren't being kept for combi flying. Many knew this was inevitable though.
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I don't think he said anything about the combis.
One of the ideas that was going around was putting the 4th airplane in a strategic place to cover RJTY and PHIK flying (if one breaks) and also market it for charters. I only heard this once or twice, so it was probably just a farfetched rumor.

This current plan would leave four airplanes with three having work.

As you probably know, National (NCR) kept one of the four combis (the other three are 752/3/4CX) and I think they've got their STC/approval as well since their airplane is doing some flying now, the last I knew. So your idea isn't as impractical as it might have been a year ago.
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So what's the latest at ATI? Any furlough numbers yet?
How many crews will remain to fly the 3 combi's? As lucrative as DOD flying is, you still have to wonder if they can make a profit with only three aircraft operating and their overstaffed mgmt. They've been unprofitable for the last couple years. I hear the legacy ATI and legacy Capital pilots are fighting over who should fly the combi's.
This mgmt group successfully destroyed Capital and now they're running ATI into the ground. ATI was a great little airline before the cornfield crew got involved.
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So what's the latest at ATI? Any furlough numbers yet?
How many crews will remain to fly the 3 combi's? As lucrative as DOD flying is, you still have to wonder if they can make a profit with only three aircraft operating and their overstaffed mgmt. They've been unprofitable for the last couple years. I hear the legacy ATI and legacy Capital pilots are fighting over who should fly the combi's.
This mgmt group successfully destroyed Capital and now they're running ATI into the ground. ATI was a great little airline before the cornfield crew got involved.
As was Airborne Express.... back in the day.
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