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Old 04-01-2014 | 10:24 AM
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NOTHING (with regard to changes/enhancements to our CBA that is) will encourage "them" to leave
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Old 04-01-2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
NOTHING (with regard to changes/enhancements to our CBA that is) will encourage "them" to leave
Exactly. It's just another benefit that they and not everybody else will get again..
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Old 04-01-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
So let me get this straight.

You think increasing the number of years you earn benefits and resetting the high 5 top end will encourage guys to leave sooner?
Sounds like incentive to stay longer!???!

IMHO, any negotiating capital should be spent for something that will benefit the majority.

Guys that got hired in their mid forties in the mid 2000's will never get to see a high five of that magnitude, unless there is some upwards ascension.
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Old 04-01-2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kwri10s
How about a bump from 25 years to 28 years of max years of credit without changing the 2% per year. Max 56%

And/or increasing the max from 260 to 300.

There are a lot of Tiger guys that will have 28 and age 60. Could tempt folk to wander off. I think there are guys staying just to see what happens.
I have an idea but when I ran it past our old negotiator (BC) he said I was smoking dope. FOR EVERYONE HIRED AFTER THE CONTRACT IS RATIFIED:
Starting pay is 325K and reduces by 10K per year until your 25th year of service and then reduces at a rate of 5K per year. Your 401K and your "high-five" would be front loaded and maxed out. Stay as long as you want!
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Old 04-01-2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
I have an idea but when I ran it past our old negotiator (BC) he said I was smoking dope. FOR EVERYONE HIRED AFTER THE CONTRACT IS RATIFIED:
Starting pay is 325K and reduces by 10K per year until your 25th year of service and then reduces at a rate of 5K per year. Your 401K and your "high-five" would be front loaded and maxed out. Stay as long as you want!
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Pass the pipe, fbh. I like it.
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Old 04-01-2014 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
NOTHING (with regard to changes/enhancements to our CBA that is) will encourage "them" to leave
If no one leaves between 60 and 65 it cost the company nothing. Should be easy to negotiate.

Generally I agree, one thing we shouldn't do is what we did in 2006 when the negotiating committee negotiated a 25K (++) bonus for themselves and their cronies whether they retired or not. But one of the reasons to stay until 65 is healthcare. With obumblecare it will only get more expensive especially for rich retirees with younger wives.

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