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Old 04-30-2014, 04:43 AM
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Specifically I was wondering about the pilots that depart KOAK after midnight, flying 757s, A300, DC10s and MD11s to the major west coast cities: LAX, ONT, PDX, SEA, PHX, LAS, SAN, etc.

I have come to learn that these planes are carrying cargo which came from Asia and uses OAK as its west coast hub.

I was curious to know about the life of the pilots jumping out of OAK after midnight. (No reason other than just a fascination for the industry).

1) Would a pilot flying from OAK to PHX usually be on that route most nights, or do they fly some place different most nights?

2) Does their work day start in OAK with their first flight to one of the west coast cities? For example to the crew flying from OAK to LAX and a DC10. After they arrive in LAX, what happens next. Such a short hop from OAK to LAX, I was curious as to what happens next. Sit in LAX for a couple hours then return to OAK? That would be a dream job lol!

I'd love any comments regarding the operations.

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Originally Posted by JamesAA View Post
Specifically I was wondering about the pilots that depart KOAK after midnight, flying 757s, A300, DC10s and MD11s to the major west coast cities: LAX, ONT, PDX, SEA, PHX, LAS, SAN, etc.

I have come to learn that these planes are carrying cargo which came from Asia and uses OAK as its west coast hub.

I was curious to know about the life of the pilots jumping out of OAK after midnight. (No reason other than just a fascination for the industry).

1) Would a pilot flying from OAK to PHX usually be on that route most nights, or do they fly some place different most nights?

2) Does their work day start in OAK with their first flight to one of the west coast cities? For example to the crew flying from OAK to LAX and a DC10. After they arrive in LAX, what happens next. Such a short hop from OAK to LAX, I was curious as to what happens next. Sit in LAX for a couple hours then return to OAK? That would be a dream job lol!

I'd love any comments regarding the operations.

Thanks!

James

James, you may just be someone very curious about our operations but no one knows who you really are. As benign as your questions seem, the answers may allow someone with ill intent to build a very good profile of our operations!

My suggestion is to find someone that can answer your questions, meet them in person and when they know you are just a curious individual, they will answer your questions.

I also suggest that everyone else stop answering questions like this on an open forum where anyone can see them!
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james, you may just be someone very curious about our operations but no one knows who you really are. As benign as your questions seem, the answers may allow someone with ill intent to build a very good profile of our operations!

My suggestion is to find someone that can answer your questions, meet them in person and when they know you are just a curious individual, they will answer your questions.

I also suggest that everyone else stop answering questions like this on an open forum where anyone can see them!
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As benign as your questions seem, the answers may allow someone with ill intent to build a very good profile of our operations!
How could the knowledge that a pilot's typical work day (such as, for example:OAK to LAX, sit for 2 hours then fly back to OAK) possibly be used against anyone or any entity in some ill manner? I don't see it. Sorry. It's not like this is CIA info I'm tapping. This is so general. I'm not asking for FDX pilot's names, SSNs, addresses, spouse and kids names, ...lol. I'm asking REALLY REALLY general questions. Just wanted some idea of what the night ops out of OAK were like. I think people here can divulge that info without worrying about some psycho reading it and somehow gaining new found knowledge which s/he can in turn use against FDX (or an individual). How could that even happen? I can see how exercising caution with regards to answering some questions posed in forums would be prudent. I just don't see the need for that type of caution or prudence with my questions.

My suggestion is to find someone that can answer your questions, meet them in person and when they know you are just a curious individual, they will answer your questions.
Obv if I knew someone in the industry I would ask them. I really don't see the big fuss about asking a question which is common information. Are pilots not allowed to say what routes they fly? LOL, I guess I'm naive because I had no idea this was so hush hush.

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LOL, I guess I'm naive because I really don't see how I can use this against anyone or any entity.
Yup. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean a d@mned thing.
Got a few minutes? Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

Not topic-specific but a good example of how "not seeing" something can get you in deep fecal matter.
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Not topic-specific but a good example of how "not seeing" something can get you in deep fecal matter.

LOL So can paranoia.

It was an interesting vid, though not really groundbreaking info. Not exactly analogous to wanting to know what a typical crew's night out of KOAK is like, but hey, it was a nice reminder about the powers of the ever-so important 5th Amendment!

At this point I'm just wondering if anyone will answer my questions. When I posted it I expected a few friendlies to give some idea of what the operation is like. Now based on the negative feedback, I'd give it less than 1 chance in 20. For whatever reason I seem to run into more grumpers that work for Purple than any other airliner/cargo service. What is up with that?

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Use flight aware to see what the destinations are.
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LOL So can paranoia.

I'm just going to take my chances and blurt this across the internet: Many DAL pilots fly in and out of ATL on a daily basis. Oh poop...I pray that doesn't get used for evilness. :O
You're only reinforcing the idea that you're immature and naive.
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LOL So can paranoia.

And it begs the question, but if there is nothing to see, can a person ever really get into deep "fecal matter"?
You should change that to the context you originally used, as in "I don't see how..." As in not seeing it, not that there is nothing to see.
And yes, not seeing something can get you in deep ****e.
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You're only reinforcing the idea that you're immature and naive.
Sir you are reinforcing the idea that you are judgmental. You really know nothing about me. The comment I made about DAL says nothing about my maturity. It was an illustration to make a point about how absurd it is to shield certain harmless information due to paranoia. I know more than you probably think I know, so save the lectures about winding up in"fecal matter" for your kids.

I also know that saying "James, a pilot's day might include a 2am hop from KOAK to KONT, and then off to..." is never going to hurt any one or anything. For you to think otherwise, makes you naive and/or mostly just plain paranoid. I think the shoe is on the other foot now with regards to your lessons on winding up in fecal matter, amigo.
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