Training Pay......
 

Having not been to ITU in 10 years, let me ask a stupid question.

I've looked in the contract but can't find the rules for bidding for pay during training. It sends me in a circle.

Could anyone tell me where in the CBA this is??? Carryover doesn't count??? If i look it up, it says pay as spelled out in Sec 3 and 4. That's a help.

Bikini

Assuming FDX you will be paid your BLG. You will get your C/O if it is the 1st month (hard to fly C/O any other month) and you fly it. You will essentially fly all trips prior to your training start date. You will be removed from all trips after training. So bid carefully, but they will move your start date anyways so it really doesn't matter.

Go to the FDX Alpa Scheduling Committee archives page and you'll find this link: Schoolhouse Cash

Good stuff.

so you're saying that carry over only counts on the first month......not after that?

thanks alot.

But carryover does go into your makeup bank. That "Scheduling Matters" piece about the subject says, basically, if you want more money now bid "Highest paying line", if you want more money later bid "Highest C/O line" (or whatever it's called).

At least, that was the way I interpreted it.

You aren't paid C/O but it goes into your makeup bank the first month but not subsequent months.

There's no such thing as a stupid question......no, no, wait a minute.. Yes, there is. :rolleyes: However yours wasn't one of them. :D

Sorry, it's been a rather slow day, so a little self-amusement was in order.

But using the VIPS codes for highest paying line w/ or w/o c/o 9970 9980 is not the smartest way to bid depending on your seniority while your in pay only status. I'm pretty sure this has been addressed on here sometime ago. If you bid the vips codes you may be denying yourself some pay, especially highest paying w/o carryover. These codes will only look at lines w/ carryover or without carry over.

For example, if you bid highest paying line w/o carryover, you could be awarded a line that pays less than BLG or RLG. If you manually select each line in paying order, stop at BLG. After that, bid any VTO, because a VTO in pay only status pays BLG. Then continue bidding lines that pay less than BLG but more than RLG. Once you reach RLG, bid any reserve line. If you're super junior, continue bidding the remaining regular lines in pay order that pay less than RLG.

With reference to when to bid "Any VTO" I'm pretty sure you mean Avg. BLG, as that's what a VTO line pays during pay only. Other than that, an excellent recap.

Also, on any line with carryover, the only part that is not payed is the CH in the subsequent month. You will still get the CH of the carryover trip in the current bid month. That's why the generic codes for "max pay W/ or WO/ carryover" don't work well. Bid WO/ Carryover and you may miss a higher paying line that did have carryover. Luckily, we have BidX (or Fastbid for those few holdouts,). Just sort for max credit hours. Select all the lines above Avg BLG, then "any VTO," then all the lines between Avg. BLG and RLG, then "Any Reserve line," then if you need to, all the lines below RLG.

and FxCal (aka FxBidLite, free on the company iPad)

Thanks for the correction. That is what I meant.