FDX QA Observations
06-15-2014, 08:00 AM
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I had one a few months back.. They will ask you several questions about your rest and such.. After reading the union's stance on these flights, I would have chosen not to participate and make them feel unwelcome.
At the time, I had no idea what it was about. The captain didn't either. At my last recurrent, one of the observers explained the program.. I still have no idea why this program exists, but I won't participate next time.
At the time, I had no idea what it was about. The captain didn't either. At my last recurrent, one of the observers explained the program.. I still have no idea why this program exists, but I won't participate next time.
06-15-2014, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
I had one a few months back.. They will ask you several questions about your rest and such.. After reading the union's stance on these flights, I would have chosen not to participate and make them feel unwelcome.
At the time, I had no idea what it was about. The captain didn't either. At my last recurrent, one of the observers explained the program.. I still have no idea why this program exists, but I won't participate next time.
At the time, I had no idea what it was about. The captain didn't either. At my last recurrent, one of the observers explained the program.. I still have no idea why this program exists, but I won't participate next time.
06-15-2014, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
The QA is a part of SMS and an IOSA requirement. Part 5 will soon be issued. Observations should be just that. . If we are to be on the IOSA registry and in compliance with SMS we have to do it.
No one has to answer any questions from a QA observer, about sleep rest or anything else. The QA observers should be listed as JS and request permission to ride instead of being listed as ACM as that implies "member of the crew" just one of many concerns ALPA raises.
One of the most poorly run programs I have ever seen, without any input from ALPA to boot.
06-15-2014, 09:07 AM
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Thanks, have a seat in the back...JUST SAY NO
Originally Posted by 4A2B
correct, and we should be doing an ongoing LOSA per the negotiated MOU to meet those requirements.
No one has to answer any questions from a QA observer, about sleep rest or anything else. The QA observers should be listed as JS and request permission to ride instead of being listed as ACM as that implies "member of the crew" just one of many concerns ALPA raises.
One of the most poorly run programs I have ever seen, without any input from ALPA to boot.
No one has to answer any questions from a QA observer, about sleep rest or anything else. The QA observers should be listed as JS and request permission to ride instead of being listed as ACM as that implies "member of the crew" just one of many concerns ALPA raises.
One of the most poorly run programs I have ever seen, without any input from ALPA to boot.
They are not a required crewmember. They are in an entry level management wanna be program, and they could still make comments that put you in front of a training review board.
Fedex continues to do their own thing, unlike all other airlines that seem to crash a lot less jets...makes you wonder. LOSA yes, QA no.
06-15-2014, 09:08 AM
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Where's the info on the program? On PFC somewhere? If it's part of SMS then where is that in writing? What's to stop the Company from disciplining a crew that declines to answer? Are there any protections? I'm asking because I honestly don't know and have no idea where to find out. Who is in charge of the program? Are all the observers non-members?
06-15-2014, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
Where's the info on the program? On PFC somewhere? If it's part of SMS then where is that in writing? What's to stop the Company from disciplining a crew that declines to answer? Are there any protections? I'm asking because I honestly don't know and have no idea where to find out. Who is in charge of the program? Are all the observers non-members?
As for giving them a ride, I think the part of where they sit or maybe not go at all is up to the Captain just like any PIC Authority decision when it comes to seats in the Cockpit (all 121.583 seats, like all in 767/777).
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