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Old 12-29-2006, 08:01 PM
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How do you apply at Gemini? The web site doesn't tell you where to send apps, does it?
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:29 PM
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How do you apply at Gemini? The web site doesn't tell you where to send apps, does it?

Not to sound cynical, but if you are an FO now, good luck. I had two internal recs, one from a managment guy. However, I have NO PIC time at all. Sadly, no call for interview for a job I'd really like to have. With the job market like it is, no surprise.

I knew guys (and a girl) that were hired with no PIC at GAC. But in their latest round of calls for interview, of the three I have heard from, all had 121 PIC.

I get the impression they don't discriminate between prop or jet (as any employer shouldn't). But like anywhere else, PIC is king.
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Not to sound cynical, but if you are an FO now, good luck. I had two internal recs, one from a managment guy. However, I have NO PIC time at all. Sadly, no call for interview for a job I'd really like to have. With the job market like it is, no surprise.

I knew guys (and a girl) that were hired with no PIC at GAC. But in their latest round of calls for interview, of the three I have heard from, all had 121 PIC.

I get the impression they don't discriminate between prop or jet (as any employer shouldn't). But like anywhere else, PIC is king.
I think you may well be right. We went through a stage a few years ago where hiring was based on your zip code rather than experience. South Florida to be exact. All the people I have seen who do not have the PIC time are from S. Florida. Not the case with the female. She didn't have the PIC time but lived up north. She has since returned to United.
Was the management guy you speak of JJ, formerly of ACA and no longer here. He was not well liked by flight ops or the line guys. He had no experience for the job he was in ie, line flying at Gemini, iternational or heavy jet.

The minimum for years at GAC was and still is 1000 pic turbine. We are going to have people here whose first PIC turbine time will be in a widebody....

You want to see one unhappy camper. Run into a Miami boy in Africa. If you live in Miami and are on the 10 and do your whole rotation out of Miami you will work about 10 days a month.
The funny thing about all this is, as we retire the 10s the pilots will be transitioned to the 11 with no Miami flying.
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:19 AM
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What are typical sked and pay like over there?
I do not have any internals, but plenty of time.
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I think you may well be right. We went through a stage a few years ago where hiring was based on your zip code rather than experience. South Florida to be exact. All the people I have seen who do not have the PIC time are from S. Florida. Not the case with the female. She didn't have the PIC time but lived up north. She has since returned to United.
Was the management guy you speak of JJ, formerly of ACA and no longer here. He was not well liked by flight ops or the line guys. He had no experience for the job he was in ie, line flying at Gemini, iternational or heavy jet.
The female I was talking about was not UAL, from my lst job. No PIC (I know for a fact) and no ATP (I'm 99% sure on that one). So, like you told me another time. Comes to GAC, gets a full blown MD-11 type, then leaves in under a year. JJ was not the guy, it was somebody else. FWIW, JJ was not that well like at ACA either. I never had a run in with him, but there were plenty of folks who were not fond of him.
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What are typical sked and pay like over there?
I do not have any internals, but plenty of time.
Do a search here and on FI. If you cannot find the answers you are looking for let me know and I will give you the info you desire.
Gemini is not utopia. We have our issues, however if you want to fly a heavy jet to the four corners of the world, then this might be the place for you.
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