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olly 07-18-2014 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by magic rat (Post 1686938)
His email fired me up even more.

Blaming it on ALPA because we asked for increases in certain areas which will cost company XXX millions over the next couple years...***?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what negotiations are?! We start at one level, they start at the other, and we whittle each other's position down to an acceptable level.

Personally, we should be asking for more. Stock is at an all time high, billions are being made, on our backs.

Kudos NC, you speak for me!!!

The company had $3.2 BILLION in cash (earned thru revenue operations with a brand value that the crew force maintains) that they couldn't find anything to do with so they did a stock buyback. Recently raised the dividend as well.

MaydayMark 07-18-2014 11:52 AM

I'm not sure how PC and BM became part of "The 3 Stooges Management Team" but I'm disappointed that we can't do better than them. If there's any good news it's that the Management revolving door should be about ready to turn ... especially if it starts to look like Contract Negotiations might affect peak :eek:

moondoggie11 07-18-2014 02:23 PM

If memory serves, back in the day when PC flew the line soaking up draft and volunteer $s, he also had a part time job selling (used?) cars. Judging by his message he wasn't very good at it. But he is a perfect fit in management...epic fail.

Airbusdriver 07-18-2014 02:30 PM

My opinion
 

Originally Posted by mcdbirdman (Post 1686667)
Haven't read it. Don't plan on it. Anything to do with negotiations on the web site I have to access to get to my flight plan is a safety distraction.

Could not have said it better.

Laughing_Jakal 07-18-2014 03:11 PM

My takeaway is that all this time....through the entire time interim discussions, and the entire Section 6 negotiations, our Negotiating Committee has held fast according to this msg. Great Job guys! Man, that has me especially encouraged. He says the Company really wants an agreement, so I think we should continue to stick to our positions.

Sounds like our Negotiating Committee is doing exactly what we asked them to do in spite of "one side holding to a ridiculous position....(read PBS)". I'm just surprised we heard about them serving our interests so well from this source.
You'd think he was supposed to try to drive a wedge between us and our NC.... Instead he tells us how well they've done.....curious

MaydayMark 07-18-2014 07:02 PM

Does anybody know how Management gets paid? I vaguely remember something about "average line Captain" BLG + X% over ride"? Does that mean that if we decide to enjoy the nice weather at home this summer (and work fewer hours) that Management gets paid less?

Hmmm ... what affect might that have on Contract Negotiations? :eek:

Dadof6 07-18-2014 09:49 PM

FO hats are back-ordered at the uniform shop. Irma says delivery time ~ 3 weeks.

My Negotiating Committee speaks for me!

magic rat 07-18-2014 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Dadof6 (Post 1687349)
FO hats are back-ordered at the uniform shop. Irma says delivery time ~ 3 weeks.

My Negotiating Committee speaks for me!

Order a CA lid and take a sharpie to the scrambled eggs.... Sorry couldn't resist.

LightAttack 07-18-2014 11:36 PM

Crewforce reaction to PC message:

Cricket Sound - YouTube

RockyTopFlyer 07-19-2014 05:46 AM

PC's message could have been drafted by an Obama speech writer. The message is similar, "I can't do anything because the other guy is being unreasonable."


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