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Old 07-28-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12 View Post
"For me, I want July and August off, so I bid 15 days in the beginning of August (sometimes I bracket July and August), then I slide it back one day into July and extend it out to wipe out my entire line (with one day)."

Do you actually have to slide it back for one day into July? Can't you just expand your vacation to all those earlier trips, and not slide it at all, so you can slide it in August, if you want?
You have to slide first one day into the previous month (current bid month), then expand it until you are out of hours (90). I don't bid reserve when on vacation, but there a lot of guys who do in Memphis, there are definite advantages to that but it gives you less flexibility as a commuter like me. There are guys out there way smarter than me, but I've found this gets me the most bang for the buck (STS). As far as MU goes, your hands are tied a bit, you're right about that. But you can pick up some sweet trips during the first conflict window.

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Old 07-28-2014, 02:20 PM
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thanks for the good info. I always try to knock out a whole month with a week but never thought to maximize it by bidding it close the end/beginning fo the bid month. My policy, a week of vacation should be a month off and makeup vacation trips when necessary to replenish the bank to play next time.

if all our guys did this we'd be a lot better off as a group. Hell, given our schedules that time off is required.
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:06 PM
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If you expand to hit a trip you are limited as to the amount you can knock out. No problem if you slide. Plus, you cannot expand backwards into another bid month unless you have first slid into the month first.
Ah, got it. So if you just slide it one day, say it's a 14 day vacation, you can knock out 14 days X 6 hours, plus an additional 6 hours in July. For a total of 90 hours in July? Then you can still use the remaining 13 days in August to knock out whatever trips it touches? But you won't be able to slide again, or expand into August, if you've already knocked out too much in July. Is that correct?

Edit to add, looks like JollyF15 explained it. Thanks!
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....and to carry this a step farther you can bid to work the first part of the month prior and the last part of the month after.....now you have 3 months off with full pay based on one block of vacation!

I will analyze my bidding plans about 9 to 12 months at a time to maximize these great perks......and minimize my work footprint.
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As far as your one day slide into the previous month that knocks out all those hours, won't that only work if you are awarded a single departure type line that finishes up on the last day of the month?

Doesn't seem like this would work with a typical domestic hub turn line.
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Originally Posted by Timeoff2fish View Post
As far as your one day slide into the previous month that knocks out all those hours, won't that only work if you are awarded a single departure type line that finishes up on the last day of the month?

Doesn't seem like this would work with a typical domestic hub turn line.
You expand back into the first month. And, you still have the first 13 days of the second month to conflict with trips.
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:23 PM
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Also, since there is no trip guarantee for MUV trip, if one calls in sick, there is no RSA bank deduction.
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:42 PM
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Another sweet trick if you have 36 days of vacation is to bid a 7, a 7, a 7, and an 8 day vacation during the four bid periods. This uses 29 days of vacation but leaves you with 7 days left. Guess what the company now HAS to give you a fifth vacation slot. It always comes in January but some are able to put it into February. This gives you 5 vacations. Now you if you have some seniority you can bid around the January vacation (if you want) and that goes right into the hopper for buy back. Same thing with the last one and wala, you've maxed out your buy back. Personally I like the time off.
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Originally Posted by JetJocF14 View Post
.... Same thing with the last one and wala, you've maxed out your buy back. Personally I like the time off.
wala??

Also, I'm with Timeoff on this one. How does one vacation day on the last day of the month expand to knock out the whole month? Single departure only or am I missing something?
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:32 PM
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Adler,

asked and answered.

7.E.3.c
Allows you to expand in either direction, which way you expand depends upon where the bulk of your vacation days are.

In this example, 15 days (90CH) of vacation starting the first day of the August bid month.
In the July bid month, slide it one day to the left. Results in 1 day of Vacation in July w/14 in August. During the July processing window, expand your vacation as far to the left as you wish. You can knock out 96 CHs (....3.b = scheduled vacay + 6CH)
In August, a VTO line would result in another 84CHs of pay...and pretty sure no trips, likewise bidding reserve and extending your vacation = same results, but fewer CHs on the BLG and fewer CHs out of the vacation bank
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