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Old 09-09-2014, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 View Post
You could always email the guys you don't want to fly with and tell them the line you held and tell them not to bid it.
But the list is so long I don't have the time!
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:08 PM
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Create a positive airman list of virtually everyone then just leave a few out.

My impression is there were some "hurt" feelings by those on the list. My opinion is that FedEx was foolish to eliminate it-provides some pretty honest feedback to the VOCAL minority of Capt's who were on it
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Originally Posted by kronan View Post
Create a positive airman list of virtually everyone then just leave a few out.

My impression is there were some "hurt" feelings by those on the list. My opinion is that FedEx was foolish to eliminate it-provides some pretty honest feedback to the VOCAL minority of Capt's who were on it

My guess ... I wonder if Corporate Legal went to Flights Ops and voiced an opinion that, "If this guy is involved in an accident (and people get hurt) you won't be able to defend that you knew he was a problem. Look! 39 f/o's asked not to fly with him


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Old 09-09-2014, 02:06 PM
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I agree with Mayday-
The negative airman list was a financial liability to the company.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:16 PM
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I agree with Mayday-
The negative airman list was a financial liability to the company.
Ha! Looks like liability trumps safety. Is anyone surprised?
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:16 PM
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It was an opportunity for actual leadership. There are a few guys, still, who fly and act dramatically different when an LCA is watching. Pro Stans is aware of a few problem children, absence of the negative airman list didn't eliminate the issue.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:58 PM
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Suck it up Butter Cup. It make you a better mature young man.

Anyway it's the captains that should be able to consult with one another about the rookies they don't want to be stuck with, don't you think?
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts View Post
That is the reason for Capt bids on Thursday and FO bids on Friday. It is your job to sort out who has what line.

Now if I could only find the list that tells certain FO's not to bid my line
Mostly it's not necessary for FO's. But then there is the secondary line process. Wouldn't it help there?

But what about the poor CAs? Should they have a negative FO list? Fortunately they can take the landings if needed.

Other airlines have this so, no, it's not a legal issue. It's a "we're too lazy to process this" issue. It's probably also an old JL deal where his buds complained. Which makes you wonder how they would deal with all the work required to go to PBS. They would take the cheapest and quickest path possible to get it running, except for some exceptions for those who have well placed friends. Any exploitable loophole, like the Flexes getting locked out of WB pay 757 lines, will be maximized. I can only describe this as BAD, BAD, BAD. But I digress.

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Old 09-09-2014, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter View Post
Other airlines have this so, no, it's not a legal issue.
I'm not sure I'd use that as an accurate barometer. It probably is a legal issue in some twisted FedEx way. It's just that other airlines flight ops don't have a legal team on speed dial.
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Old 09-10-2014, 06:45 AM
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I was told by a former head of standards that it was a legal issue.
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