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Old 01-06-2007, 10:55 PM   #1  
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Default Atlas / Polar, about to hire ???

I was at the Grande Cafe last week in L.A. and talked to a Polar guy. I was told that they will probably have to hire pretty soon. Anyone have any info on this?
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I heard that the Daz and his boys at Astar are going to buy Polar/Atlas.....
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PLEASE!!! Enough with the nonsense. Daz is all talk, always has been, always will be! I would send a resume to ABX, they should be accepting soon. I know I will be!

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PLEASE!!! Enough with the nonsense. Daz is all talk, always has been, always will be! I would send a resume to ABX, they should be accepting soon. I know I will be!
How do u figure that???? With the parking of the 8s and the 16 or so still on furlough not to mention the surplusing that is going on...oh and lets not forget the non-stop open flying that is and has been going on since the day the first man (me) was furloughed. maybe you know something I dont.
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It was simply based on what I have heard some of your guys have say, some on the property, some on other forums. Maybe they are blowing smoke or smoking crack. I hope it is true so that you can get your job back (if you want it). Aren't fellow members just grand? What a bunch of great guys to help you out, you get to stay at home while they work for you. Never understood that mentality.


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How do u figure that???? With the parking of the 8s and the 16 or so still on furlough not to mention the surplusing that is going on...oh and lets not forget the non-stop open flying that is and has been going on since the day the first man (me) was furloughed. maybe you know something I dont.
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It was simply based on what I have heard some of your guys have say, some on the property, some on other forums. Maybe they are blowing smoke or smoking crack. I hope it is true so that you can get your job back (if you want it). Aren't fellow members just grand? What a bunch of great guys to help you out, you get to stay at home while they work for you. Never understood that mentality.

I see...I thought maybe u worked at ABX based on your name....you might want to look into other carriers. Abx is kind of locked in to where they are right now...if you get hired you will be a F/O for quite a long time and probably be on reserve until enough people retire or die so you can hold a line. I dont really have a choice, I gotta wait for ABX if I want to fly 121...I'm gettin too old and no college. If I would go back I imagine I would reitire a 76 F/O. Also dont forget, they are parking the 8s and just recently heard from the chief pilot that they need to find something to replace the 9...if they replace it at all, he talked about an all 76 fleet...thats a lot of crews to surplus into the 76...it smells of another furlough. Just a thought....its darkest before the dawn. (I think)
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didnt mean to turn this into a ABX post...just emailed a bud at Atlas. I will post when I hear something
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I haven't heard that. Not in our hallways....
I doubt it as we still have to recall our Polar pilots laid off when we parked the classics. If Polar has recalled them all I would be surprised.
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Well they were just ordered to make a of the Polar pilots full again. That is a good sign.
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Ref Polar hiring question-----

Based upon two recent arbitration rulings, the status at Polar is this:

1) all PFEs (57 last count) that were illegally terminated when AAWH transferred "Polar classic" flying to Atlas have been re-instated, with full back pay, benefits, etc and are now just sitting at home, not working, but collecting full pay, benefits, etc.

2) all FOs (approx 100) furloughed due the transfer of "Polar classic" work to Atlas have been recalled, with full back pay,benefits, etc since furlough and are now just sitting at home, not working, but collecting full pay, benefits, etc.

Added Note: All Polar Captains who were downgraded to FO because of AAWH actions to transfer "Polar classic" flying to Atlas have been awarded full back pay, benefits, etc (ie, the difference between Capt and F/O pay).

A third arbitration decision, concerning Atlas flying Polar trips, is in progress. Meeting held 3 Jan 07 between AAWH (holding co of both Atlas and Polar), Polar MEC, and arbitrator to determine remedy. Arbitrator has ruled that AAWH cannot use Atlas to fly Polar schedules, but has not determined what the remedy will be. Outcome at this time is unknown---but decision expected soon.

So, as far as to whether Polar is hiring is a moot point at this time. My guess is not. About 150 Polar guys sitting home collecting pay and not working. I assume AAWH will not let this situation continue for very long.

It all depends on what AAWH decides to do.

If they expand Polar (based upon additional China route awards and the current use of 4 Atlas planes and 120 Atlas crewmembers to do Polar work) by using Polar crews and Polar airplanes, then the possibility exists of future hiring at Polar. This of course implies a corresponding decrease in crew needed at Atlas.

Presently, all Atlas and Polar crews are awaiting the arbitrator's final remedy decision and its impact on both carriers.

No doubt it will be interesting and cause extreme angst to all concerned.
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