FDX- Council 7 Message 10/6/14
10-07-2014, 07:54 AM
#11
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It is Kabuki theater time, the company has no incentive to settle and the MEC has to play its part and entertain all offers. If I were representing a block that had mostly guys with 25 years at the company I would vote yes on a pension freeze, it is in their interest. But I would hope it would not get past the whole MEC. Although I would agree with Doogs and wouldnt object to a voluntary choice on freeze or 25% B fund. It is definitely hard to criticise a block rep for his vote without seeing the offer.
I did not volunteer for vacation buy back, although 84 hours just about equals a semester of tuition and would make a nice start on high 5. It will be interesting to see who does.
I did not volunteer for vacation buy back, although 84 hours just about equals a semester of tuition and would make a nice start on high 5. It will be interesting to see who does.
10-07-2014, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
It is Kabuki theater time, the company has no incentive to settle and the MEC has to play its part and entertain all offers. If I were representing a block that had mostly guys with 25 years at the company I would vote yes on a pension freeze, it is in their interest. But I would hope it would not get past the whole MEC. Although I would agree with Doogs and wouldnt object to a voluntary choice on freeze or 25% B fund. It is definitely hard to criticise a block rep for his vote without seeing the offer.
I did not volunteer for vacation buy back, although 84 hours just about equals a semester of tuition and would make a nice start on high 5. It will be interesting to see who does.
I did not volunteer for vacation buy back, although 84 hours just about equals a semester of tuition and would make a nice start on high 5. It will be interesting to see who does.
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10-07-2014, 08:40 AM
#13
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Some version of A-plan freeze and B-plan increase, switch to a cash balance plan, or some such, MIGHT be ok if each INDIVIDUAL pilot had a choice whether to accept a proposed change or keep his plan as is. I would definitely oppose any plan change that was imposed across the board. We should not even discuss any sort of B-scale anything. That's a slippery road we don't want to go down.
10-07-2014, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
If I were representing a block that had mostly guys with 25 years at the company I would vote yes on a pension freeze, it is in their interest.
But I would hope it would not get past the whole MEC.
But I would hope it would not get past the whole MEC.
I'm enjoying my vacation too.
10-07-2014, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
DR represents a block just like you describe and he says NO. Voting to help a selfish few while hoping the rest of the MEC saves the farm is not the right way to go, IMHO
I'm enjoying my vacation too.
I'm enjoying my vacation too.
10-07-2014, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Like I said we havent seen the offer I cant criticize. If you know the details I'll be glad to give you my opinion. I saw the offer when my block rep voted to send me on a 3 month STV on LOA 1.
10-07-2014, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
.., The company is continuing to negotiate in bad faith. How we react to that is entirely up to each of us.
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10-07-2014, 12:41 PM
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Some of you need to get a grip.
From the VC today:
From the VC today:
... I would like to take a few moments of your time and address the attack on our “A” plan you heard about.
It is true that the company put forth a proposal to freeze your “A” plan, eliminate it, and rely solely on a cash balance plan for new hires choosing to fly for FedEx. FDX management proposed that. That company proposal in not only unacceptable, it is disrespectful and obviously a grab to either catch us off guard or put further delay obstacles in our path to concluding bargaining. Our mandate from the outset of negotiations has been to strengthen and enhance our current retirement plans, for all pilots. Management’s attempt does not rise to the level you have set for us to achieve. The bottom line is that nobody can just take our “A” plan away without a bankruptcy looming; it would have to be voted away by the majority of our members. This is a perfect example of why our pilots need to stay engaged and informed by talking with their block reps. as well as showing up at meetings. By doing that, we ensure that our system of governance will work as designed. I have said this many times: I have great respect for the character and integrity of this crew force and I am confident that such a huge grab by management will be seen for what it is, the mother of all concessions! ...
It is true that the company put forth a proposal to freeze your “A” plan, eliminate it, and rely solely on a cash balance plan for new hires choosing to fly for FedEx. FDX management proposed that. That company proposal in not only unacceptable, it is disrespectful and obviously a grab to either catch us off guard or put further delay obstacles in our path to concluding bargaining. Our mandate from the outset of negotiations has been to strengthen and enhance our current retirement plans, for all pilots. Management’s attempt does not rise to the level you have set for us to achieve. The bottom line is that nobody can just take our “A” plan away without a bankruptcy looming; it would have to be voted away by the majority of our members. This is a perfect example of why our pilots need to stay engaged and informed by talking with their block reps. as well as showing up at meetings. By doing that, we ensure that our system of governance will work as designed. I have said this many times: I have great respect for the character and integrity of this crew force and I am confident that such a huge grab by management will be seen for what it is, the mother of all concessions! ...
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