Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Cargo (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/)
-   -   CMV1 Training Month Move (FX) (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/84415-cmv1-training-month-move-fx.html)

FDXLAG 10-11-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 1744422)
So when would you be due next year?

Ive done a couple of grace month sims and it doesnt move the date. Not sure a month early would either. BTW a grace month sim is also a good scheduling tool. Knocks out a trip and sub for any uncovered days.

busdriver12 10-11-2014 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 1744422)
So when would you be due next year?

Your due month doesn't change. They are just giving you your training the month before it is due.

I called the bus sim scheduler and she said they'd moved a large number of people from their due month into November, because of peak. I don't think there is anything in the contract that stops this from happening.:(

FrankTheTank 10-11-2014 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 1744437)
Your due month doesn't change. They are just giving you your training the month before it is due.

I called the bus sim scheduler and she said they'd moved a large number of people from their due month into November, because of peak. I don't think there is anything in the contract that stops this from happening.:(

Cause we're over manned... Yep

Whale Pilot 10-11-2014 07:26 PM

I was told it was due to "staffing"

Whale

DLax85 10-11-2014 08:05 PM

Looks like they're proactively bracing themselves for peak, while simultaneously dragging their feet at the negotiations table

Hmmmm....

Perhaps, they're concerned Vacation Buy Backs and Advanced Volunteer won't be sufficient

Fly Professionally - Fly Safely - Fly Well Rested

...and realize your collective value & importance

In Unity,

DLax

MD11Fr8Dog 10-11-2014 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 1744659)
Looks like they're proactively bracing themselves for peak, while simultaneously dragging their feet at the negotiations table

Hmmmm....

Perhaps, they're concerned Vacation Buy Backs and Advanced Volunteer won't be sufficient

Fly Professionally - Fly Safely - Fly Well Rested

...and realize your collective value & importance

In Unity,

DLax

Bingo! They don't expect a contract by Peak!

msduckslyr 10-12-2014 11:35 AM

So let me sum this up:

There is no contractual reference to the company moving one's training bid a month early. In my experience, that means we are screwed if we'd like it moved back to its original month. This is because the company, knowing a contract isn't going to be done by Peak (big surprise), is bracing for an apparent manning issue (even though we are "overmanned.")

In return, I lose a month of preparation. Instead of having seven weeks to prepare, I may have to train in three weeks. I also lose any scheduling flexibility I had during the holidays with training. As well, I lose any flexibility in November I may have been hoping for being pretty Junior in my seat, and can expect to train on a November day I was hoping to have off.

Awesome!

msduckslyr 10-16-2014 07:14 AM

I finally spoke with my manager after three emails went unanswered. The answer was I could not have my training moved back to December because the company is preparing for peak and needs all available pilots. And, moving training to November was an upper management decision.

Awesome!

DLax85 10-16-2014 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by msduckslyr (Post 1747430)
I finally spoke with my manager after three emails went unanswered. The answer was I could not have my training moved back to December because the company is preparing for peak and needs all available pilots. And, moving training to November was an upper management decision.

Awesome!

...the company is preparing for peak and needs all available pilots...

What other decisions is upper management making...or choosing to not make?

Think Gentleman - Think!

MX727 10-18-2014 01:16 AM

Once again, they have clearly communicated to the pilots what is working towards speeding up negotiations. I wonder how many will understand and be energized to redouble their efforts?


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:53 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands