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fireman0174 10-19-2014 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by HKFlyr (Post 1749164)
Yes, his son.

Flew with Harry 1969-1971 period.

Newark B-737-200.

HKFlyr 10-19-2014 03:53 AM

He flew west at least 12 years ago. Met the wife several times and some of the rest of the family. Great people.

MaydayMark 10-19-2014 06:34 AM

Well ... anyone that might have Dave Webb / Bob Chimenti "stink" on them won't get my vote. DW's positions were so different from mine that I sometimes wondered if he was getting money "under the table" from Management :confused:

Those guys clearly had an agenda to take care of THEMSELVES!*? They did


:eek:

Fedex999999 10-19-2014 07:47 AM

I think it's hilarious that you all think that the all-powerful DW has such influence on people, even today. Everyone is an individual, and DW isn't pulling the puppet strings.

HKFlyr 10-19-2014 08:07 AM

You got the wrong guy...
 

Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1749246)
Well ... anyone that might have Dave Webb / Bob Chimenti "stink" on them won't get my vote. DW's positions were so different from mine that I sometimes wondered if he was getting money "under the table" from Management :confused:

Those guys clearly had an agenda to take care of THEMSELVES!*? They did


:eek:

YGTBSM!

If anyone is helping the company, take a look at SS. Remember that it was the current SCP that released the SIG from work to go help sway the recall vote on the reps that openly opposed SS. Thereby keeping the Boy king in power. BM was heard to say SS was good for the company. Huh?

Dave Webb got every fired Captain their job back during the Jumpseat war.

SS and company rolled over on the HK4 and continued to negotiate two interim one year jokes of a hybrid TA and a flawed 767 LOA that is already full of holes.

I want some of what your smoking...I think it is good s$&t!

If you truly think this guys are great, good luck! We are so far in the hole from the start of negotiations I only hope we can keep what we got in 2006.

How much work have you done for your association? If you have done any serious work you would think otherwise.

fireman0174 10-19-2014 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by HKFlyr (Post 1749174)
He flew west at least 12 years ago. Met the wife several times and some of the rest of the family. Great people.

Geez, I was thinking 6, maybe 7 years ago. :eek:

Thanks for the info.

dckozak 10-19-2014 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT (Post 1748903)
Hey........all you Fdx Crewmembers out there, dredge your memory, do your homework. In particular you Guys and Gals in Blocks 3,6 and 11, do not be fooled, conned or mis-led. M. A. is/was Webbs right hand man. There is no new and improved. Its the same old Gig. To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln in 1864..."Don't change horses in the middle of the stream".........THAT would truly be devisive.


I will add this about the "ARCO" debate. Mike has from the beginning worked endless hours on behalf of Fedex pilots. Yes he is associated with the Webb administration. I won't defend all that has been bannered about about Webb, other than to say that DW is a true unionist knowing all too well that "interest based bargaining" is the ultimate oxymoron.

For those of you not here since pre ALPA 1 and its replacement, FPA to be followed by ALPA 2 (the current); here is a quick history lesson. We have had alternating philosophy's at Fedex starting with "Fred with take care of us....", "We will lose the good will of the company if we unionize...." and any number of similar augments vs "We need a real contract negotiated by a real union".
At this juncture few would argue the need for a RLA sanctioned working agreement (pre union the crew force was pretty evenly divided on even the need for that), but now we have had back and forth, a "work with the company vs go head to head with the company" approach to negotiating with Fedex. Both have failed to conclude a contract with the company in a timely manner. Both advocates for their method of negotiating have had better luck bad mouthing the other camps methods than acutely proving there own in negoiation with Fedex.

So Back to Mike. Mike is old school. He is a true blue unionist, not some pansy apologist who holds his nose over the fact that other groups, be it truckers, teachers or clerks, dare to work under a union label. I don't even have to ask whether Mike is covering up his SEIU logo on his "Contract Now" lanyard, I know he isn't.

I'm not bad mouthing the current administration or how they are interfacing with the company, I'm just saying that ARCO is not Webb but is surely not cut from the same cloth as CC. Read what he has to say and vote for him based on what he saids he will do as an ALPA rep. You may not agree with everything he says but he will work 150% for the pilots of this airline. That I will take to the bank..

Flying Boxes 10-19-2014 03:03 PM

No responsibility?
 

Originally Posted by HKFlyr (Post 1749288)
….SS and company rolled over on the HK4 and continued to negotiate two interim one year jokes of a hybrid TA and a flawed 767 LOA that is already full of holes.

Not really feeling any love for DW does not equate to supporting SS. Please don't insult our intelligence with this misleading comment. Most on here did not say "we support SS", they simply don't want to go back to the days of the DW admin.

Did SS negotiated the crappy LOA that was used to ensnare the HK4? If DW is so much better than SS and should have a second administration after being recalled I would expect the LOA he negotiated would be so tight the HK4 would never have had to deal with the housing issue. Not of interest to the him & his companions, they got theirs and some of "ours".

Who signed off on 90 day TDY to HK? Another example of how DW strong armed management during his term! So DW's negotiated agreement means the company doesn't have to worry about manning the HK 767 because the junior will pay the price one way or another.

FDXLAG 10-19-2014 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 1749476)
I will add this about the "ARCO" debate. Mike has from the beginning worked endless hours on behalf of Fedex pilots. Yes he is associated with the Webb administration. I won't defend all that has been bannered about about Webb, other than to say that DW is a true unionist knowing all too well that "interest based bargaining" is the ultimate oxymoron.

For those of you not here since pre ALPA 1 and its replacement, FPA to be followed by ALPA 2 (the current); here is a quick history lesson. We have had alternating philosophy's at Fedex starting with "Fred with take care of us....", "We will lose the good will of the company if we unionize...." and any number of similar augments vs "We need a real contract negotiated by a real union".
At this juncture few would argue the need for a RLA sanctioned working agreement (pre union the crew force was pretty evenly divided on even the need for that), but now we have had back and forth, a "work with the company vs go head to head with the company" approach to negotiating with Fedex. Both have failed to conclude a contract with the company in a timely manner. Both advocates for their method of negotiating have had better luck bad mouthing the other camps methods than acutely proving there own in negoiation with Fedex.

So Back to Mike. Mike is old school. He is a true blue unionist, not some pansy apologist who holds his nose over the fact that other groups, be it truckers, teachers or clerks, dare to work under a union label. I don't even have to ask whether Mike is covering up his SEIU logo on his "Contract Now" lanyard, I know he isn't.

I'm not bad mouthing the current administration or how they are interfacing with the company, I'm just saying that ARCO is not Webb but is surely not cut from the same cloth as CC. Read what he has to say and vote for him based on what he saids he will do as an ALPA rep. You may not agree with everything he says but he will work 150% for the pilots of this airline. That I will take to the bank..

Sounds like he will work 100% for Pilots and 50% for labor politics. I know some of you think that is the same thing, sure wish you hadn't insinuated that your candidate agrees with you.

Zero13 10-19-2014 07:19 PM

Any way you slice it Arco is 1000 times the effort and ideas of his opposition for his block and his council.


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