FDX - 757 Disputed Pairings - Nov '14
10-20-2014, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
I flew BTV-SYR-EWR-FLL last month without a layover in EWR! It was a bidpack pairing not a revision. The only difference in NOV is with the seasonally adjusted times you don't rate a hotel during the turn now - turn went from 4:08 to 4:00. A hotel on a hub turn is not a layover!
10-29-2014, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
It's been a while, but unfortunately Disputed Pairings are back in the 757 MEM Bidpack as we enter Peak.
Please put Safety First, and support your PSIT & SIG:
Straight from the SIG Notes:
#103 / 10NOV
#105 / 17NOV
#120 / 10, 17 NOV
#124 / 24NOV
#302 / 04, 05, 06, 11, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26 NOV
#346 / 10, 17 NOV
BFM-QRO, pairing 302, is a previously disputed pairing that has reappeared in November. We are continuing to dispute this pairing design based on risks associated with operating two legs critical into a high CFIT/minimal ATC international
destination.
TV-SYR-EWR-FLL, disputed pairings 103/105/120/124/346 contain an 11+01 layover before an 11+18 3 leg night duty period
Thanks,
In Safety...and Unity,
DLax
Please put Safety First, and support your PSIT & SIG:
Straight from the SIG Notes:
#103 / 10NOV
#105 / 17NOV
#120 / 10, 17 NOV
#124 / 24NOV
#302 / 04, 05, 06, 11, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26 NOV
#346 / 10, 17 NOV
BFM-QRO, pairing 302, is a previously disputed pairing that has reappeared in November. We are continuing to dispute this pairing design based on risks associated with operating two legs critical into a high CFIT/minimal ATC international
destination.
TV-SYR-EWR-FLL, disputed pairings 103/105/120/124/346 contain an 11+01 layover before an 11+18 3 leg night duty period
Thanks,
In Safety...and Unity,
DLax
Unfortunately, the FO seat didn't do as well, as some DPs were picked up / awarded already --- many thru the VTO process
????
Some to very junior FOs...some to FOs not very junior
????
Let's all support the hardworking members of our SIG, and continue to communicate & educate both the short term & long term hazards associated with flying DPs voluntarily -- especially during peak!
Fly Professionally - Fly Safely - Fly Well Rested
In Unity,
DLax
10-29-2014, 04:38 PM
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At least she's consistent
DLAX,
Wow, did we ever fail as FO's, picking up many of those DP's.
One FO picked up not just one DP, she also piled on a second heaping portion of "f___ your buddy" by grabbing a second DP to add to the first.......at least she's consistent
Her employee number is not that junior either
I don't know the protocol, but is it legal for someone in the SIG to drop an email to these folks and "make them aware" of the fact that they're picking up DPs?
Wow, did we ever fail as FO's, picking up many of those DP's.
One FO picked up not just one DP, she also piled on a second heaping portion of "f___ your buddy" by grabbing a second DP to add to the first.......at least she's consistent
Her employee number is not that junior either
I don't know the protocol, but is it legal for someone in the SIG to drop an email to these folks and "make them aware" of the fact that they're picking up DPs?
10-29-2014, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishSkies
DLAX,
Wow, did we ever fail as FO's, picking up many of those DP's.
One FO picked up not just one DP, she also piled on a second heaping portion of "f___ your buddy" by grabbing a second DP to add to the first.......at least she's consistent
Her employee number is not that junior either
I don't know the protocol, but is it legal for someone in the SIG to drop an email to these folks and "make them aware" of the fact that they're picking up DPs?
Wow, did we ever fail as FO's, picking up many of those DP's.
One FO picked up not just one DP, she also piled on a second heaping portion of "f___ your buddy" by grabbing a second DP to add to the first.......at least she's consistent
Her employee number is not that junior either
I don't know the protocol, but is it legal for someone in the SIG to drop an email to these folks and "make them aware" of the fact that they're picking up DPs?
We don't need people voluntarily flying DPs
We don't need pilots failing to pay attention when bidding in the View/Add window, building their VTO request or Trip trading in Open Time
Ignorance is not a sustainable excuse
Now, it's absolutely their prerogative, and perfectly legal and protected under the CBA, but it's very harmful in the short term -- and especially in the long term --- to everyone!
Does she know & understand this?
That's why our only venue is to communicate & educate
The SIG already did it's part by disputing the pairings and publishing it in the SIG notes
The responsibility lies with us both individually and collectively
We all have peers from our new hire class, we all have/had crashpad mates, we all fly with other smart, professional aviators
Hopefully, those that know her will take the time to communicate & educate --- then it's on her to do the right thing, the smart thing --- based on safety
In Unity,
DLax
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