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Old 10-23-2014, 02:19 PM   #11  
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Sat phone is too expensive, and the radio is too cluttered. ACARS leaves a paper trail -- that's my medium of choice.

Unless someone wants to pay my cell phone bill. When that happens, I'll use it to call GOC. Until then ...



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Yet the #1 preferred method of communication for a PDM is a personal cell phone. Seems like we ought to either get a company paid cell phone for that purpose, or not be told when or how we can use our personal ones.
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Yet the #1 preferred method of communication for a PDM is a personal cell phone. Seems like we ought to either get a company paid cell phone for that purpose, or not be told when or how we can use our personal ones.
Preferred ... Hmm. Preferred by whom? Is "preferred" in the definitions section of the CBA?

I USED TO care what "they" preferred.

Since they prefer that my colleagues in Hong Kong are terminated, and since they prefer I bid my schedule through a yet-to-be-invented preferential bidding system, I don't really pay much attention to what anyone prefers.


My cell phone is for ME, not THEM. I owe them 100%, not 100.1%.


I'm befuddled by how many guys/gals I still hear asking for shortcuts. Why the hurry?






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Two can play at this game, because if you read it, it says, the rule does not apply to crewmembers operating a jumoseat...so, I'll just get out of the front seat and sit in a jumpseat to make a call...BRILLIANT!!!
It actually says "occupying a flight deck jumpseat"...........sooo maybe the RFOs are good to go?

In reality, if your name's on the release as an operating crewmember, I doubt the location of your rear end is going to provide any relief from this.

It looks like this might be the source of these changes: NPRM out in early 2013 with final ruling this past Jan.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...he-flight-deck

However, it looks like the new FAR makes the prohibition specific to the times the crewmember is "at their duty station on the flight deck", not from arrival at the aircraft until leaving after arrival.

Funny , how the company will go the extra mile and exceed the FARs on this. On the other hand, their master plan to have 767 pilots fly round dials and LDS aircraft along with variants of the 757 has to be squashed by the FAA rather than via application of common sense.
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Sat phone is too expensive, and the radio is too cluttered. ACARS leaves a paper trail -- that's my medium of choice.

Unless someone wants to pay my cell phone bill. When that happens, I'll use it to call GOC. Until then ....
It's probably me, but I have no idea what you said here. It looks like you shot down all three options. So, which is your medium of choice?

Personally, I don't care if the Sat phone is expensive. It's now my number one choice if I need voice communication with dispatch. No acars close out in HKG? Sat phone to flight coordination. Easy.
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No acars close out in HKG? Sat phone to flight coordination. Easy.
Haha. That's a damn fine idea.!
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I guess it's phone powered off and back to paper books huh? I especially like the new APU start time. Love the satcom idea ha ha....
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I wonder, specifically, what the general term "Regulatory changes" means (as far as, "New paragraphs added as the result of Regulatory changes") . Doesn't say FAA regulatory changes.
FAA InFO published to make carriers aware of the recently changed regulation on use of personal electronic devices on the flight deck: http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviat.../InFO14006.pdf

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(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator.

[Doc. No. 20661, 46 FR 5502, Jan. 19, 1981, as amended by Amdt. 121-369, 79 FR 8263, Feb. 12, 2014]
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Sat phone is too expensive, and the radio is too cluttered. ACARS leaves a paper trail -- that's my medium of choice.

Unless someone wants to pay my cell phone bill. When that happens, I'll use it to call GOC. Until then ...
It's probably me, but I have no idea what you said here. It looks like you shot down all three options. So, which is your medium of choice?

Oops, did not mean to be so cryptic. The ACARS is my medium of choice. The answer is highlighted in blue.



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Personally, I don't care if the Sat phone is expensive. It's now my number one choice if I need voice communication with dispatch. No acars close out in HKG? Sat phone to flight coordination. Easy.

You make a good point, and when I'm not on an MD-10 I'll consider it.






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Does this mean that we need to delete our Cell #'s from VIPS until we have a Contract?
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The FAA InFO rule gives the prohibition as "while the aircraft is being operated".

What does that mean? Aboard the plane, from block out to block in, or something else?

Seems at first read that the FOM is more restrictive than the rule requires?
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