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#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
Yet the #1 preferred method of communication for a PDM is a personal cell phone. Seems like we ought to either get a company paid cell phone for that purpose, or not be told when or how we can use our personal ones.
#12
I USED TO care what "they" preferred.
Since they prefer that my colleagues in Hong Kong are terminated, and since they prefer I bid my schedule through a yet-to-be-invented preferential bidding system, I don't really pay much attention to what anyone prefers.
My cell phone is for ME, not THEM. I owe them 100%, not 100.1%.
I'm befuddled by how many guys/gals I still hear asking for shortcuts. Why the hurry?
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#13
In reality, if your name's on the release as an operating crewmember, I doubt the location of your rear end is going to provide any relief from this.
It looks like this might be the source of these changes: NPRM out in early 2013 with final ruling this past Jan.
https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...he-flight-deck
However, it looks like the new FAR makes the prohibition specific to the times the crewmember is "at their duty station on the flight deck", not from arrival at the aircraft until leaving after arrival.
Funny , how the company will go the extra mile and exceed the FARs on this. On the other hand, their master plan to have 767 pilots fly round dials and LDS aircraft along with variants of the 757 has to be squashed by the FAA rather than via application of common sense.
#14
Personally, I don't care if the Sat phone is expensive. It's now my number one choice if I need voice communication with dispatch. No acars close out in HKG? Sat phone to flight coordination. Easy.
#17
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 5
Actual regulation:
Originally Posted by FAA Regulations
§121.542 Flight crewmember duties.
(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator.
[Doc. No. 20661, 46 FR 5502, Jan. 19, 1981, as amended by Amdt. 121-369, 79 FR 8263, Feb. 12, 2014]
(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator.
[Doc. No. 20661, 46 FR 5502, Jan. 19, 1981, as amended by Amdt. 121-369, 79 FR 8263, Feb. 12, 2014]
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#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 711
The FAA InFO rule gives the prohibition as "while the aircraft is being operated".
What does that mean? Aboard the plane, from block out to block in, or something else?
Seems at first read that the FOM is more restrictive than the rule requires?
What does that mean? Aboard the plane, from block out to block in, or something else?
Seems at first read that the FOM is more restrictive than the rule requires?
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