Motivation behind Fedex negotiation updates
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Wow, I hope no none is stupid enough to think and extra 9.5% (7% already + 9.5% = 16.5%) in your Bplan is worth trading in $130,000 a year A Plan... The average pilot here makes no where near the new limits they are talking about anyway and most won't make that without working a bunch of extra.
Funny how they say we have the best paying contract (except for hourly rates) in the whole industry because pilots are able to protect carry-over (as if that's not a huge advantage to them, probably way more so than it is to the average pilot here... I can't hold that after 9 years...)
In Unity!
Funny how they say we have the best paying contract (except for hourly rates) in the whole industry because pilots are able to protect carry-over (as if that's not a huge advantage to them, probably way more so than it is to the average pilot here... I can't hold that after 9 years...)
In Unity!
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Wow, I hope no none is stupid enough to think and extra 9.5% (7% already + 9.5% = 16.5%) in your Bplan is worth trading in $130,000 a year A Plan... The average pilot here makes no where near the new limits they are talking about anyway and most won't make that without working a bunch of extra.
Funny how they say we have the best paying contract (except for hourly rates) in the whole industry because pilots are able to protect carry-over (as if that's not a huge advantage to them, probably way more so than it is to the average pilot here... I can't hold that after 9 years...)
Funny how they say we have the best paying contract (except for hourly rates) in the whole industry because pilots are able to protect carry-over (as if that's not a huge advantage to them, probably way more so than it is to the average pilot here... I can't hold that after 9 years...)
Basically the company is saying you can wh0re yourself out for all the straight hourly pay in the world and they would love to pay it to you so you'll die the day you turn 65 from all the back of the clock shift work you have been flying for the last 25+ years.
"Although we no longer have the highest hourly rate, the entire package of pay remains the best in the industry. The ability to enhance line values, fly carryover when senior enough to hold it, make-up and volunteer without the limitations of a cap and bank, and the ability to sell back vacation put us ahead of other pilot groups."
A very small percentage of pilots (most only the senior pilots) have the ability to use these benefits, majority pilots can not. Fly carryover (straight pay) make-up hours (straight pay) sell back vacation so you can go fly at straight pay!? GO work your arse off, leave your family, do good for the company and the company will give you a nice atta boy.
Management is doing a fantastic job at ruining any and all good will left with the crew force and creating an insurmountable wedge that will not be mended with any amount of money, IMHO. They just keep digging themselves in the ground. The more crap they publish the more resolve I have that MY UNION SPEAKS FOR ME.
#27
Biggest scam ever. Don't think for a second the company is doing you any favors. Management cares about one thing....screwing you out of as much money as possible to put in their pockets! FedEx is making record profits and doesn't want to share a penny of it.
Basically the company is saying you can wh0re yourself out for all the straight hourly pay in the world and they would love to pay it to you so you'll die the day you turn 65 from all the back of the clock shift work you have been flying for the last 25+ years.
"Although we no longer have the highest hourly rate, the entire package of pay remains the best in the industry. The ability to enhance line values, fly carryover when senior enough to hold it, make-up and volunteer without the limitations of a cap and bank, and the ability to sell back vacation put us ahead of other pilot groups."
A very small percentage of pilots (most only the senior pilots) have the ability to use these benefits, majority pilots can not. Fly carryover (straight pay) make-up hours (straight pay) sell back vacation so you can go fly at straight pay!? GO work your arse off, leave your family, do good for the company and the company will give you a nice atta boy.
Management is doing a fantastic job at ruining any and all good will left with the crew force and creating an insurmountable wedge that will not be mended with any amount of money, IMHO. They just keep digging themselves in the ground. The more crap they publish the more resolve I have that MY UNION SPEAKS FOR ME.
Basically the company is saying you can wh0re yourself out for all the straight hourly pay in the world and they would love to pay it to you so you'll die the day you turn 65 from all the back of the clock shift work you have been flying for the last 25+ years.
"Although we no longer have the highest hourly rate, the entire package of pay remains the best in the industry. The ability to enhance line values, fly carryover when senior enough to hold it, make-up and volunteer without the limitations of a cap and bank, and the ability to sell back vacation put us ahead of other pilot groups."
A very small percentage of pilots (most only the senior pilots) have the ability to use these benefits, majority pilots can not. Fly carryover (straight pay) make-up hours (straight pay) sell back vacation so you can go fly at straight pay!? GO work your arse off, leave your family, do good for the company and the company will give you a nice atta boy.
Management is doing a fantastic job at ruining any and all good will left with the crew force and creating an insurmountable wedge that will not be mended with any amount of money, IMHO. They just keep digging themselves in the ground. The more crap they publish the more resolve I have that MY UNION SPEAKS FOR ME.
#28
I know it's hard to not be emotional about a subject like this, but we need to take a step back and look at the facts before we accuse people of things they did not do. This only serves to divide us further. If you are not sure about something on social media, call your block rep or anybody in the union to get the facts. Just my opinion of course.
#29
"MD11hog is not correct and is just going off the misinformation spread on here"
None of my information came from here. My bloc rep refused to sign an LEC letter saying we would never negotiate a freeze in the A plan. He then signed a letter defending that lack of unity, giving several examples of how it would benefit pilots. I assume both letters are on the the ALPA site but I received them in emails. That is direct source information, not something I read on APC.
Reason I Didn't call my Block 4 rep: Both are decisions I find infuriating. I lack the vocabulary and tact to discuss them without screaming profanity and questioning his intelligence.
None of my information came from here. My bloc rep refused to sign an LEC letter saying we would never negotiate a freeze in the A plan. He then signed a letter defending that lack of unity, giving several examples of how it would benefit pilots. I assume both letters are on the the ALPA site but I received them in emails. That is direct source information, not something I read on APC.
Reason I Didn't call my Block 4 rep: Both are decisions I find infuriating. I lack the vocabulary and tact to discuss them without screaming profanity and questioning his intelligence.
#30
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"Although we no longer have the highest hourly rate, the entire package of pay remains the best in the industry. The ability to enhance line values, fly carryover when senior enough to hold it, make-up and volunteer without the limitations of a cap and bank, and the ability to sell back vacation put us ahead of other pilot groups"
Every other Airline out there allows their pilots to pick up as much open time as they want. Therefore doing so at FDX is no additional perk. In addition, all the extras listed above only benefits the Company not the pilot. Their trips get covered and you family loses out on spending quality time. By the way, your A Plan is worth a lot more than 9.5% increase on your B Plan. I can't believe that's all they could have came up with. It's an insult to say that pilots working overtime and selling back vacation is an additional benefit to their compensation package.
Every other Airline out there allows their pilots to pick up as much open time as they want. Therefore doing so at FDX is no additional perk. In addition, all the extras listed above only benefits the Company not the pilot. Their trips get covered and you family loses out on spending quality time. By the way, your A Plan is worth a lot more than 9.5% increase on your B Plan. I can't believe that's all they could have came up with. It's an insult to say that pilots working overtime and selling back vacation is an additional benefit to their compensation package.
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