Deviation bank w trip change?
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Deviation bank w trip change?
I had a trip revised while in the field. The original had a back end DH. Rev 01 has no dead heads.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
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I had a trip revised while in the field. The original had a back end DH. Rev 01 has no dead heads.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
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I had a trip revised while in the field. The original had a back end DH. Rev 01 has no dead heads.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
8.c.2.a Dev Banks says,
if a deadhead trip is changed or canceled by the Company, the deadhead bank monies remain intact.
seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
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You keep the bank money. If it doesn't show up in Fox you can do a discrepancy on that trip and the auditors will correct it. Also make sure you get credited for disruption pay. If not fill out a pay log and make sure you get credited for any overage. Lots of this type stuff gonna happen this month folks. All of us should review the contract and make sure we can look up a section as needed.
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seems pretty clear that my dev bank should have a credit for the value of the DH on the original, even though Rev 01 canceled it. But I have been burned before in interpreting what I thought was crystal clear.
Anyone have expereince in this- of course crew travel is closed now, and don't want to purchase a ticket and find that the company won't pay for it.
If you loose your back end deadhead and have a revision that includes (or in subsequent revisions includes) a mid trip DH, you will not have the total money, (that is the mid trip and previously scheduled back end DH) money. You will only get the highest of either of these two DH banks.
On first blush, this seems reasonable, you don't need money for a back end DH now as you will end in domicile; but consider this scenario, you deviate on the backend DH and spend less money than bank (maybe you planned to J/S and save it all). You spend some of that bank on other qualified travel, possibly on travel before this operational change. Your new mid trip DH's bank you use as scheduled. If the mid trip DH cost exceeded the back end cost you will have ZERO, NADA, NOTHING for a useable bank (even if you already spent some of this money).
I know this to be fact, took it up the ladder with crew travel audit and than ALPA contract enforcement.
On big intl DH's on the back end where you are spending (some of that) real money (you think you have) on travel you need earlier in the month, you could be burned by changes you can't control (revisions) and affect monies you though you could not loose (8.C.2.a). PM me if your want more detail.
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