Current Delta Pay Rates vs. Fedex
 

Just talked to my buddy at Delta. Their 777 Capt rates are going to $270.25 01Jan15. That's without 10% profit sharing up to 2.5bil and 20% over (which it looks like they will make this year). It also looks like they'll be getting 3% right away if they get a new contract (but that's not for sure).

So whatever FedEx offers it's still way behind the Delta plus a nickel ;) Oh wait we'll have KCM so I'm sure it's worth it.

To be fair, what percent of Delta pilots are 747 and 777 Captains at the max rate vice FedEx Wide Body Captains over 15? You know, that apples to apples argument?

Cargo is also exempted from part 117 rest rules. We should get more pay than the pax airlines just for that alone. Take that to the negotiating table.

To be fair, you fly a wide body you get wide body pay. What if all we only had wide bodies? Some on lesser pay?

FedEx had the opportunity to separate out the 777 pay. They chose to go with one widebody rate! So, why do you bring fairness into the argument?

Because flying a wide body is harder? That's maybe the one thing we got right from the beginning at UPS: the single pay scale.

FedEx should fix their "B" scale. 757 pilots at FedEx make $30-40K less than 757 pilots at UPS flying the same routes.

:confused: Harder?
That was never the justification for a/c based pay scales. The concept began as pay based on productivity. You move more pax or freight per flight, you make more.
There certainly are some good aspect of a single rate. Pay based on productivity was around long, long before UPS started flying aircraft - so it's not like the concept just appeared because someone decided big planes are hard to fly. :rolleyes:

"FedEx should fix their B scale."

So UPS is the only major carrier with common seat pay rates and FDX should change? Thanks for the advice.

Actually this statement can not be made with out further evidence. Guarantees may be correct but in practice we hide 10% of our hours and split them up amongst the senior guys and the wolfpack. It would be like me saying UPS has a B scale because our senior WB international round the world flyers make 20% more than yours. I like the single pay rate I wish we would've had one when I was junior. I like the two pay rates now that I am senior enough to hold a WB at relatively good seniority. In a couple of years I will wish we had Deltas 87 different pay rates that reward productivity.

As I said before I am pretty sure our guys cost the company the same per pilot as your guys, any evidence to the contrary would be appreciated.