Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-13-2015, 03:16 PM   #1  
On Reserve
Thread Starter
 
Lloyd Christmas's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11 F/O
Posts: 21
Default " I just don't get it? "

I rarely post anything here. I am generally a quiet observer, but I just can't keep quiet after what JP posted today.
He stated that he just doesn't get it. Well this is what I don't get. You are an ALPA member and are part of a team that:

-wants to radically change our retirement,
-thinks PBS is a wonderful idea,
-fundamentally change our health care and,
-agree to an overall concessionary contract after FDX posted a $600 million profit last quarter?

You are right JP, you just don't get it and you never will. All you did today is strengthen my resolve and encouraged me to listen more intently to my MEC. Thank you!
Lloyd Christmas is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 06:53 PM   #2  
Line Holder
 
mcdbirdman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 62
Default

Well said!!
mcdbirdman is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 06:56 PM   #3  
Line Holder
 
Simple Jack's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 30
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Christmas View Post
I rarely post anything here. I am generally a quiet observer, but I just can't keep quiet after what JP posted today.
He stated that he just doesn't get it. Well this is what I don't get. You are an ALPA member and are part of a team that:

-wants to radically change our retirement,
-thinks PBS is a wonderful idea,
-fundamentally change our health care and,
-agree to an overall concessionary contract after FDX posted a $600 million profit last quarter?

You are right JP, you just don't get it and you never will. All you did today is strengthen my resolve and encouraged me to listen more intently to my MEC. Thank you!
You can't triple stamp a double stamp Lloyd!!!
Simple Jack is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 07:14 PM   #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Dadof6's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: A-300 Trunk Monkey
Posts: 562
Default

Shack!!!!!!
Dadof6 is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 07:44 PM   #5  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 6
Default

You should post more often. Best comments I've read in a loooong time.
RDunlop is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 09:51 PM   #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
gcsass's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 328
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Christmas View Post
I rarely post anything here. I am generally a quiet observer, but I just can't keep quiet after what JP posted today.
He stated that he just doesn't get it. Well this is what I don't get. You are an ALPA member and are part of a team that:

-wants to radically change our retirement,
-thinks PBS is a wonderful idea,
-fundamentally change our health care and,
-agree to an overall concessionary contract after FDX posted a $600 million profit last quarter?

You are right JP, you just don't get it and you never will. All you did today is strengthen my resolve and encouraged me to listen more intently to my MEC. Thank you!
That was a quick turn from "Thanks for delivering one of the best Peak Seasons ever" to "here's a little kick to the jimmies just because we can"

Nice!
gcsass is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 10:21 PM   #7  
On Reserve
 
captainchaos's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 10
Default

Jaw-dropping Wow. Well stated commentary.

JP just put a steaming growler as icing on his credibility cake.

Good luck “fixing” Hong Kong!
captainchaos is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 11:18 PM   #8  
Slainge Var'
 
AerisArmis's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Zeppelin Tail Gunner
Posts: 1,528
Default

Nothing management does is done in a vacuum. That missive had to be approved by higher ups and company lawyers. I just can't think for the life of me what any of them thought it would accomplish. I can't imagine there are any fence sitters left to try to influence to come on over the their side. The whole thing is just weird and drives a deeper wedge between the pilots and those who negotiate against the pilots. One things for certain, the HK guys need to be very careful, the new chief pilot isn't shy about letting everyone know where his loyalties lie.
AerisArmis is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 11:42 PM   #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
FDXLAG's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 7,981
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AerisArmis View Post
Nothing management does is done in a vacuum. That missive had to be approved by higher ups and company lawyers. I just can't think for the life of me what any of them thought it would accomplish. I can't imagine there are any fence sitters left to try to influence to come on over the their side. The whole thing is just weird and drives a deeper wedge between the pilots and those who negotiate against the pilots. One things for certain, the HK guys need to be very careful, the new chief pilot isn't shy about letting everyone know where his loyalties lie.
Probably right. Next step will leaking the 10% raise and a big bonus that the unreasonable union is keeping from us if only we would look at their swell PBS offer that will save them 20% in manpower costs.
FDXLAG is offline  
Old 01-13-2015, 11:59 PM   #10  
Line Holder
 
Spanky's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: MD-11 CAPT
Posts: 30
Default

JP, Why don't you share with your fellow pilots the deal you have with the company. It is no secret what our MEC officers are getting paid. JP, you have demonstrated over and over that you would throw all of the rest of your Union brothers under the bus to put another nickel into your own pocket. JP, your open letter to us was frankly insulting.

My Negotiating Committee speaks for me.
Spanky is offline  
 
 
 

 
Post Reply
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:54 AM.