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avi8tor220 02-08-2015 06:11 AM
Fedex planes auto land?
 
Just a quick question for the fedex guys. Are you guys Cat IIIc capable on your entire fleet? Wondering what happens when an airport gets fogged in.

PurpleToolBox 02-08-2015 06:42 AM
CAT IIIc is a precision approach with no decision height and no RVR requirements. I don't think any airline has been approved for that but I could be very wrong. However, all of the models flown by FedEx including the former 727 can autoland.

avi8tor220 02-08-2015 06:54 AM
Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 1821542)
CAT IIIc is a precision approach with no decision height and no RVR requirements. I don't think any airline has been approved for that but I could be very wrong. However, all of the models flown by FedEx including the former 727 can autoland.
Oh okay. Thanks. So I guess fog is not really an issue.

Adlerdriver 02-08-2015 06:59 AM
Originally Posted by avi8tor220 (Post 1821525)
Just a quick question for the fedex guys. Are you guys Cat IIIc capable on your entire fleet? Wondering what happens when an airport gets fogged in.
Airbus is authorized to Cat III, 600/600/600. Everything else is 300/300/300.

Lots of destinations don't have anything close to that level of approach capabilities. Either way, totally down or just Cat-II wx at a Cat-I only airport, we divert and either wait for the weather to clear or send a bunch of trucks to the alternate.

MaydayMark 02-08-2015 07:04 AM
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1821552)
Airbus is authorized to Cat III, 600/600/600. Everything else is 300/300/300.

I landed (technically the autopilot "auto-landed") the MD-11 several times in VERY LOW visibility. Sometimes, the taxi to the ramp is the fog is as bid a deal as landing

:eek:

Grumble 02-08-2015 07:16 AM
Minimums at Fedex are just suggestions. I want my damn Amazon order NOW!

Adlerdriver 02-08-2015 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1821555)
I landed (technically the autopilot "auto-landed") the MD-11 several times in VERY LOW visibility. Sometimes, the taxi to the ramp is the fog is as bid a deal as landing

:eek:
No doubt. Back in my pax days, I did a cat-III into EWR. I spent the entire taxi to the ramp trying to figure out where we were. Good thing I wasn't driving. My biggest lesson learned was pre-briefing the expected taxi plan (or at least thinking about it for a bit) and preparing for the after landing environment.

MX727 02-08-2015 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1821552)
Airbus is authorized to Cat III, 600/600/600. Everything else is 300/300/300.

Lots of destinations don't have anything close to that level of approach capabilities. Either way, totally down or just Cat-II wx at a Cat-I only airport, we divert and either wait for the weather to clear or send a bunch of trucks to the alternate.
If you're an Airbus guy, double check the FOM. If you aren't, it doesn't really matter, but all aircraft are 300 RO.

Adlerdriver 02-08-2015 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 1821766)
If you're an Airbus guy, double check the FOM. If you aren't, it doesn't really matter, but all aircraft are 300 RO.
Not AB, but I do see that now, thanks.

Busboy 02-08-2015 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1821625)
No doubt. Back in my pax days, I did a cat-III into EWR. I spent the entire taxi to the ramp trying to figure out where we were. Good thing I wasn't driving. My biggest lesson learned was pre-briefing the expected taxi plan (or at least thinking about it for a bit) and preparing for the after landing environment.
That's common even when it's CAVOK.:eek:


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