Anything New on Atlas?
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Anything New on Atlas?
I've heard they're only hiring into the 767. Wondering if hiring into the 747 is likely in the future and what kind of home life you can have if you live in domicile.
Thanks!
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Cliff notes for you:
The good?
Awesome crews
Great equipment
Fun overnights
At times gateway travel is nice when it works on the day you start
The bad?
Terrible contract
Scheduling dept that will make any other airline's look genius
17 day schedules for the rest of your career
Attrition is a huge problem and getting worse
Zero support for the line pilot
It has potential to be a career airline but currently isn't. Who knows what the next contract will bring, but count on the one we work under being what you make your decision off. Currently hiring into both planes but it should slowly be only into the 767 eventually. Pay is better than a regional but the company is still run like it has 300 pilots, so it's frustrating. No trip swaps or drops, lose pay for training mid trip, and LOTS of no transportation or hotel reservations are a few highlights. It's a really fun job but probably not a top 10 career choice at this point unless you only have a few years left.
The good?
Awesome crews
Great equipment
Fun overnights
At times gateway travel is nice when it works on the day you start
The bad?
Terrible contract
Scheduling dept that will make any other airline's look genius
17 day schedules for the rest of your career
Attrition is a huge problem and getting worse
Zero support for the line pilot
It has potential to be a career airline but currently isn't. Who knows what the next contract will bring, but count on the one we work under being what you make your decision off. Currently hiring into both planes but it should slowly be only into the 767 eventually. Pay is better than a regional but the company is still run like it has 300 pilots, so it's frustrating. No trip swaps or drops, lose pay for training mid trip, and LOTS of no transportation or hotel reservations are a few highlights. It's a really fun job but probably not a top 10 career choice at this point unless you only have a few years left.
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Depends what base you live in to answer your other question. It would help. You should get at least 1-2 extra days at home at a minimum. If you're hired onto the 767 and live in a 747 base be aware that it's a 3 year seat lock.
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CKid hit most of the current points. Even coming from the 767 on another now defunct ACMI carrier where we were on the hook for 14/28 or 28/56 days, which equates to about 15 days a month, most of our pairings consisted of something like 8/6/6/8 or 10/9/9/10/9/10 with some 14/14 Leipzig pairings thrown in. I will say that the extra days in a 17 stretch is really pushing it and makes for a long month even with the block of days off, and like mentioned above, with no real meaning of seniority, will not change as you progress. I used to do the same exact type of flying and like it but the extra couple of days a month makes a big difference for me. Not to mention the other stuff that has been said.
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I was a K4 guy back at NETJETS the 17 day thing was a killer for me too, the thing is with a few modifications, ACMI can be the best flying job in the world, but the companies seem reluctant to modify, cheers brothers, Godspeed
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Cliff notes for you:
The good?
Awesome crews
Great equipment
Fun overnights
At times gateway travel is nice when it works on the day you start
The bad?
Terrible contract
Scheduling dept that will make any other airline's look genius
17 day schedules for the rest of your career
Attrition is a huge problem and getting worse
Zero support for the line pilot
It has potential to be a career airline but currently isn't. Who knows what the next contract will bring, but count on the one we work under being what you make your decision off. Currently hiring into both planes but it should slowly be only into the 767 eventually. Pay is better than a regional but the company is still run like it has 300 pilots, so it's frustrating. No trip swaps or drops, lose pay for training mid trip, and LOTS of no transportation or hotel reservations are a few highlights. It's a really fun job but probably not a top 10 career choice at this point unless you only have a few years left.
The good?
Awesome crews
Great equipment
Fun overnights
At times gateway travel is nice when it works on the day you start
The bad?
Terrible contract
Scheduling dept that will make any other airline's look genius
17 day schedules for the rest of your career
Attrition is a huge problem and getting worse
Zero support for the line pilot
It has potential to be a career airline but currently isn't. Who knows what the next contract will bring, but count on the one we work under being what you make your decision off. Currently hiring into both planes but it should slowly be only into the 767 eventually. Pay is better than a regional but the company is still run like it has 300 pilots, so it's frustrating. No trip swaps or drops, lose pay for training mid trip, and LOTS of no transportation or hotel reservations are a few highlights. It's a really fun job but probably not a top 10 career choice at this point unless you only have a few years left.
good luck
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