FDX-Professional Instructor Pay?
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FDX-Professional Instructor Pay?
I've got a buddy who is possibly interested in being a Pro. Does anyone know roughly what those guys make to start and the pay scale, how they are scheduled, and how to apply?
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Since no one else answered you specifically, I can probably give you a generality.
Based on my own work at a major passenger airline about 15 years ago, the starting pay for these types of positions would probably be considered 'low' based on the experience requirements. At the time, my base pay was mid-30's with benefits. This was based on a contractual set number of work shifts per month, I think about 20 days. However, we were busy at the time and with overtime pay, I actually made in the mid 40's my first year. I taught in the flight simulator and I only worked about 6.5 hours per day, two hours pre-briefing the crew and four hours in simulator session, plus about 30 minutes debrief. We didn't work overnights but could be scheduled early mornings or late at night.
With tenure, the pay increased substantially and topped out in the low 100,000's. Not bad money for the responsibility and schedule. In my situation, there were both ground school instructors (who may or may not have been pilots) and simulator instructor pilots (who had to be ATP-rated pilots although there was no medical certificate requirement.) The simulator instructor pilots were paid a little more.
This was all pre-9/11 and I don't know how that affected the contracts, if any.
I learned of the opening through an advertisement from the airline. I had to complete an interview and an instructional demonstration. Since I was applying to the simulator, I also had to complete a simulator ride to show my flying skills.
Since no one else answered you specifically, I can probably give you a generality.
Based on my own work at a major passenger airline about 15 years ago, the starting pay for these types of positions would probably be considered 'low' based on the experience requirements. At the time, my base pay was mid-30's with benefits. This was based on a contractual set number of work shifts per month, I think about 20 days. However, we were busy at the time and with overtime pay, I actually made in the mid 40's my first year. I taught in the flight simulator and I only worked about 6.5 hours per day, two hours pre-briefing the crew and four hours in simulator session, plus about 30 minutes debrief. We didn't work overnights but could be scheduled early mornings or late at night.
With tenure, the pay increased substantially and topped out in the low 100,000's. Not bad money for the responsibility and schedule. In my situation, there were both ground school instructors (who may or may not have been pilots) and simulator instructor pilots (who had to be ATP-rated pilots although there was no medical certificate requirement.) The simulator instructor pilots were paid a little more.
This was all pre-9/11 and I don't know how that affected the contracts, if any.
I learned of the opening through an advertisement from the airline. I had to complete an interview and an instructional demonstration. Since I was applying to the simulator, I also had to complete a simulator ride to show my flying skills.
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19 days in 4 week months/23 days in 5 week months. I'd expect pay of ~60K to start and not plan on much growth. On the plus side, it may provide an inside track to the line, if desired (and hiring is in progress following initial contract). Last I heard, it was a 2 year commitment and then you were eligible to interview for the line. Past precedent was that an interview was practically guaranteed.
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Plan on living in MEM, an interview isn't a sure thing after the 2yr commitment. I know a guy who "didn't meet the mins" but did when he was hired. I heard a few Pro's didn't pass the interview last round. If you're competitive with flying hours, you'll have better luck going to SWA or Delta.
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This is NOT a plug for interview prep but an observation: Working 2 years internally in no way guarantees you a job on the line. I had a couple guys decide not to do a prep course and end up not getting hired. It seems like if you were working in the training department there would be an internal grooming process to prepare you for the line interview. There is not. One school of thought is if you are already employed by a company, it seems they would work to get you dialed in to move up and advance. The other school is "its a big boy program, you better do what you can because there are no guarantees in life…" I'm not here to editorialize, but I think its clear which approach the corporation views. Not every internal hire is considered line material.
Now--where does that leave the guy on the street? Lost a medical? Want to live in MEM? Really, really want FedEx and understand its a guaranteed interview but not a job? C'mon over. But do not come over thinking anyone is going to do a thing to help you migrate to the line--that one is 100% on you. I'll be glad to take your money and help you--but geez…the fact you even have to consider external prep to get hired here after working inside 2 years should give you a glimpse of the culture you are moving into. My own take is the poor bastard who teaches me systems on the 767 or MD11 probably ought to get a pass as long as he does a good job, but then again nobody has for my input here in 13 years...
Now--where does that leave the guy on the street? Lost a medical? Want to live in MEM? Really, really want FedEx and understand its a guaranteed interview but not a job? C'mon over. But do not come over thinking anyone is going to do a thing to help you migrate to the line--that one is 100% on you. I'll be glad to take your money and help you--but geez…the fact you even have to consider external prep to get hired here after working inside 2 years should give you a glimpse of the culture you are moving into. My own take is the poor bastard who teaches me systems on the 767 or MD11 probably ought to get a pass as long as he does a good job, but then again nobody has for my input here in 13 years...
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