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320Driver 01-15-2007 03:32 PM

FedEx and UPS Scope
 
Friends from UPS and FedEx were talking about the scope clauses in their contracts. The UPSer claimed their "ten can" limit is industry leading, but my FedEx buddy claims that if the box says "FedEx" on it, it's on a FedEx owned aircraft. (peak excluded) Who has the better Scope?

CaptainMark 01-15-2007 03:38 PM

neither...companies violate scope clauses all the time...fdx just pays the union for violations...have not seen ups clause but "on paper" ours is pretty good....

FDXLAG 01-15-2007 03:40 PM

Me, I would bet brown. Scope means nothing without the full support of the pilot group and external support. While pilot group may be subjective, having union drivers is a plus.

Lag

Check 6 01-16-2007 06:42 AM

Scope, we don't need no stinkin scope....

Just send my check to me....

Falconjet 01-16-2007 12:18 PM

FedEx scope is that any aircraft over 60,000 pounds max gross takeoff weight will be flown by pilots on the master seniority list.

Many of our packages are moved by contract companies flying FedEx owned feeder aircraft. Those pilots work for the contract company, not FedEx. So although the aircraft is owned by FedEx, it isn't really part of the "scope" of the FedEx CBA with the mainline pilots. I wouldn't be surprised if there are boxes moved by other operators with their own aircraft as well.

FJ


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