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Old 02-24-2015, 07:55 PM
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?Investigation: Why are cargo pilots excluded from new rest rules? - CBS News

IPA continuing to take leadership role in fighting the cargo cut out.

Way to go CAPT Travis and IPA EB.

Not pointing any fingers here but where is FEDEX ALPA in this fight??
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:29 PM
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Saw that report on CBS tonight. The second I saw the weasil that represents the industry I threw up in my mouth a little. He was disgusting.
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?Investigation: Why are cargo pilots excluded from new rest rules? - CBS News

IPA continuing to take leadership role in fighting the cargo cut out.

Way to go CAPT Travis and IPA EB.

Not pointing any fingers here but where is FEDEX ALPA in this fight??
Really nice article from CBS, sad that we have to lose 2 of our UPS pilot bretheren for a news report to show up a year and a half later. I thought the IPA guy did really well and the CAA guys looked like a clown.


FDX pilots have had the full backing of all the 54,000 ALPA pilots to support this change. ALPA maintains a presence on Capitol Hill year-round, with 5-10 ALPA Government Affairs staff (usually former Congressional staff members) and experienced pilot volunteers from many airlines constantly working with Congress on this and many other issues.

I'm glad the IPA is starting to engage in Washington, it's not easy when you are such a small voice though, tough to have much influence and I wouldn't call it a 'leadership role'.

Each year for the last 3 years ALPA has been holding a Government Affairs Summit (100+ pilots) and also when big issues come to the forefront they'll coordinate a "fly-in" where hundreds of pilots take to Capitol Hill to make scheduled visits with Senators and Members of Congress to promote pilot issues.

FDX ALPA itself has a very active Gov't. Affairs Committee that works together and as a part of ALPA's national Gov't. Affairs structure. Trust me, Congress knows where the Air Line Pilots stand on this issue; the hard part is getting Congress to act(sound familiar?).

ALPA-PAC also raised over $1.4 million for 2014 which also helps promote pilot partisan issues in Washington D.C.

ALPA White Paper Leveling the Playing Field 3.0: Rested Pilots

Press Release on Safe Skies Act

The Safe Skies Act (H.R.182 and S.1692 in the 113th Congress) will be reintroduced in the 114th Congress and will be given a different number.

You can see the rest of the issues ALPA is fighting here: Issues

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"Constantly working with Congress"? Really?

Please......
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Way to go, IPA. You ARE at the forefront of this issue, with very little backup.

I'd like to see FedEx ditch ALPA and join IPA. What a force that would be.

shiznit, no offense, but after watching ALPA grease the skids to pass Age-65, I think I speak for many when I say we've seen enough of ALPA "constantly working with congress"
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I'm glad the IPA is starting to engage in Washington, it's not easy when you are such a small voice though, tough to have much influence and I wouldn't call it a 'leadership role'.
I have not seen any other organization suing the FAA on pt. 117. I have not seen ALPA FDX (other than Sully) actively in the press on pt. 117 like IPA.

I don't know about you.... but "summits" and "chargin' the hill" sounds like a whole lot of filler for a magazine.

For a "small" organization... IPA sure seems to be doing OK. TCAS comes to mind... Also seems to me that IPA set the bar wrt compensation on the last round of CBA's. Hopefully FDX ALPA "leadership" during your contract negotiations will lead to gains more than IPA + 1%.

Agree that we all need to work together... just not too impressed with your version of leadership is.
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I'm glad the IPA is starting to engage in Washington, it's not easy when you are such a small voice though, tough to have much influence and I wouldn't call it a 'leadership role'.
Just curious if not a leadership role than what you would call it? As far as alpa goes, other growing large mustaches what have they done in the past 20 years to promote our cause?
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Just curious if not a leadership role than what you would call it? As far as alpa goes, other growing large mustaches what have they done in the past 20 years to promote our cause?
When an organization like ALPA has such a large number of "Chiefs", they spend as much time flexing their political muscles in front of the mirror and each other as anything else. Next time you're in a FDX ready room look at the mug shots of all the leadership...it looks like a government agency. So to some ALPA cheerleaders, action is denoted by how many guys are dropping trips and having cocktails in the K Street bars? Alrighty then.
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It's hard to take pleas to work together seriously while you're slinging mudballs our way.


It seems to me that UPS pilots and FedEx pilots are not the enemy, but the enemy might be enjoying watching them fight. Real smart of us, eh?






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It's hard to take pleas to work together seriously while you're slinging mudballs our way. .
What good would a b!tchboard be without any b!tching?

While UPS and FDX pilots sniping at each other on APC doesn't help anything (and IPA's President asked in the past for people not to do so), ALPA's refusal to join the IPA in its lawsuit against the FAA three years ago didn't win friends and influence people as far as the perception of Purple and Brown pilots "pulling the same direction" on this issue.
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