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Old 03-16-2015, 05:51 AM
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Given the current climate for getting a contract in place, will take a lot more than hosting pep rallies and other such bs to effect any kind of change ......... I am not surprised that folks around here are keeping their collective heads in the sand and believing that the current course will hopefully yield some kind of result. Lanyards, pep rallies, dont do this and dont do that ........... Folks you are kidding yourselves and it will take a lot more to get anyones attention and effect a change here.
The chocks are in, the plane is not moving ............. what say you ?
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Thank you Captain Obvious. What do you propose?
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Old 03-16-2015, 06:01 AM
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Said in my best Billy Crystal Miracle Max voice,

"Have fun with that illegal job action!"

Cue Carol Kane,
"Do you think it'll werk?"

"It'd take a mir...Wait! Nope"
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Fly the contract. Taxi at a brisk walk, (5mph). Don't leave early. Don't take direct routings, Don't help out, Don't accept Drafts, Don't fix "problems",etc. etc.

These are NOT illegal job actions. And if you think they are, you are misinformed.
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Fly the contract. Taxi at a brisk walk, (5mph). Don't leave early. Don't take direct routings, Don't help out, Don't accept Drafts, Don't fix "problems",etc. etc.

These are NOT illegal job actions. And if you think they are, you are misinformed.
I know the flyboy didn't specify FedEx, but we know it is. Unless FedEx squirreled away a few old Tiger 747s I don't know about, you don't work here.

The actions (or lack of action) you mention are a perfectly acceptable INDIVIDUAL choice. What has already been decided via several court decisions to be illegal is public communication (like online forums) by union members encouraging people to act as a group and make those same choices. It can then be interpreted as a violation of "status quo" during section 6 negotiations and is most, most definitely illegal.

Therefore, sir, it is you who are misinformed.

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[QUOTE=tennesseeflyboy;1843790]Given the current climate for getting a contract in place, will take a lot more than hosting pep rallies and other such bs to effect any kind of change ......... I am not surprised that folks around here are keeping their collective heads in the sand and believing that the current course will hopefully yield some kind of result. Lanyards, pep rallies, dont do this and dont do that ........... Folks you are kidding yourselves and it will take a lot more to get anyones attention and effect a change here.
The chocks are in, the plane is not moving ............. what say you ?[/QUOTE]

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Then carry on then. And get the lame COLA contract in 2 years. And what I said was correct. If individuals decide to work by the letter, it will go a long way. Not suggesting the Union put this out there. It's a individuals choice.
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
Fly the contract. Taxi at a brisk walk, (5mph). Don't leave early. Don't take direct routings, Don't help out, Don't accept Drafts, Don't fix "problems",etc. etc.

These are NOT illegal job actions. And if you think they are, you are misinformed.
+1 Exactly!
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
I know the flyboy didn't specify FedEx, but we know it is. Unless FedEx squirreled away a few old Tiger 747s I don't know about, you don't work here.

The actions (or lack of action) you mention are a perfectly acceptable INDIVIDUAL choice. What has already been decided via several court decisions to be illegal is public communication (like online forums) by union members encouraging people to act as a group and make those same choices. It can then be interpreted as a violation of "status quo" during section 6 negotiations and is most, most definitely illegal.

Therefore, sir, it is you who are misinformed.
Seeing as he's not a Fedex pilot, I'd say he's well within his rights, legally and professionally, to say that if Fedex pilots did not fly draft, take shortcuts, etc etc we just might have a contract sooner than later. I would never say that, of course, but Commando can.
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
Fly the contract. Taxi at a brisk walk, (5mph). Don't leave early. Don't take direct routings, Don't help out, Don't accept Drafts, Don't fix "problems",etc. etc.

These are NOT illegal job actions. And if you think they are, you are misinformed.
You might ask the AA MEC who got fined $40+M after they grabbed their hard drives. Hope they don't grab yours.
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