Lifizgud

Has anyone ever tried to add a trip in the View/Add period that would conflict with an existing trip on your schedule? Assuming it will just kick back the submission, but... any other tips/tricks/pitfalls with the View/Add period?

Born2AV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2xauk4l_Hg

Dadof6

Since nobody else has chimed in, listing a trip on your make-up bid that conflicts with another existing trip is a wasted input, and the computer will drop down to your next valid request. Here are a couple lessons learned about the View/Add window:

1. Carefully read the instructions regarding the View/Add window. They are different than the VTO line instructions. Your window is Wed morning until Friday morning. When you get your make-up bid complete, select Bid Period Processing Summary to make sure you actually input what you THINK you input.

1. If you want to fly trip A the most, then trip B, then trip C, and they can all be legally flown together (within your CIC hours available + 6 over), this is how I would group them
A, B, C
A, B
A, C
A
B, C
B
C

You are able to do this, because--again, in a difference from the VTO process--you are not limited in the number of trips you can request; just hit "Continue." But it is possible to get a little crazy with this: in the rare times when I get to use CIC, I usually run out of brain power & patience about the 30th line or so. But I'll bet there are some who submit a lot more than that.

2. If you ask for a carryover trip, all those CHs count against your CIC total [plus 6]. This is different than a VTO request, where only those CH in the current bid month (not the carryover CH) count against the Secondary Line Max that your VTO is constructed against. Also, if you use a lot of your CH on a large carryover trip, your paycheck will be smaller (that month). But for those who ride that "conflict with carryover" train continuously, the gain is worth the pain.

3. You will find out Friday morning what trips you were awarded.

4. Good luck and fly safe.

magic rat

What if you add a carryover trip during view/add and it touches vacation in the next month, will one have time during next months conf/input to slide that vacation out of the way?

Dadof6

I'm not an expert, and would recommend you call your futures scheduler. Every time I have asked, they have been very good at answering very specific "what if" questions. Having said that, my non-official answer to your question: Yes--as long as you can slide vacation to the right (up to) 5 days and not touch. Remember you have to add 30 minutes after a final operating leg. Anybody have any other information or views?

busdriver12

Problem is, you will have already had to have slid that vacation in the few days after the bid comes out. They won't award you a CIC trip if vacation is showing as a conflict on that day. You can't slide a vacation during the conflict input window.

Adlerdriver

I'm pretty sure this won't work. They will not award you a trip during the view/add that conflicts with a known absence. CRS planning won't award a June trip hoping you'll fix the conflict during the July bid process.

The opportunity to slide a vacation occurs BEFORE the view/add during the CIC window. That's why, in situations involving carryover trips or vacation scheduled early in the next month, you're allowed to input a slide for a July vacation during the June CIC window. If the slide of a July vacation can affect the June bid month, it can be slid during the June CIC window.

So, in the scenario you describe, you would have to know you would be submitting for the carryover trip in question and slide the vaca out of the way during the June CIC. Once the vaca was officially slid, you could then be awarded the carryover trip (with carryover into July) via view/add during the week following close of the June CIC window.

Lifizgud

Thanks for the info Dadof6! Tried it and now just confused...seems like some trips that were gone re-appear when I refresh BidX... wonder why/how that could happen... and one stand-alone trip I bid is still open, so the computer must be sorting slowly today... and they wonder why we won't LOVE PBS...

Lifizgud

Anyone know what entity I should contact if this process didn't work? I didn't get any of my requested trips in the view/add and several are still in open time (single trips, meeting all parameters). They couldn't still be sorting at 10AM on Sat, could they?

Overnitefr8

Depending upon which airplane and seat position you're on, I think they are still processing some