2cylinderdriver

I think we will get one in the next 6 months, provided our MEC does not screw it up. As to your question, I think that both sides had good intentions and I am sure that ALPA did its level best but I think the game changed with the Company's profit improvement (mostly via cost cutting) plan was announced not long after we inked our CBA in 2011, thus the players on the Company team were given much different goals and targets is my guess. I think that was the primary reason for the efficiency grabs that they really went after because a net increased cost to a CBA is a certainty and not in line with that profit plan. Funny thing is the Company probably spent much of that pay rate increase in vacation buy back, overage and of course draft/vol covering for the lack of hiring. It is a vicious circle

I personally do not care who resides in the big office at Kirby, just do not be someone who thinks they can change the world and bring the Company to their "knees", if we begin over or start any kind or regressive bargaining then we will get what we deserve, long delays and no better deal in the end. IMHO

AnyMouse

"The MEC Officers should be a non factor in closing this out, unless our MEC is stupid enough to change the players and the game now. If the MEC does that next week and gives our mediator and the Company an excuse to further delay, then shame on us. The Company has ran out of excuses and labor peace so let's not trip heading over the finish line, please."


+1 New MEC (actually, old MEC from 2005) fires all the PSIT guys that make up the NC since they hate them as "the other team", then Company immediately petitions mediator to newly present all sections over 6-8 months in order to "get the new team up to speed" and determine whether they have any more authority than the last guys. Expect to be right back where we are now next January. High fives in the board room (theirs, not ours).

Viper446

[QUOTE=trashhauler;1864690]For those of you that think that a change in the front office is some how going to get us a contract, you are fooling yourselves. The company could give a rats ass on who is sitting in the front office because they look right through them to us. As some guys here already pointed out, if we want a contract, the pilots will have to be the ones that get it, period! ( if you don't know what I mean by that, then you're beyond help)

I agree. But it seems its easy for some to come on an forum, not saying you, and bash everyone or vent. I get it. I always wonder who posts here because almost everyone I fly with is great and has the same agenda. I know we all have our ideas of what is the "right" thing to do, but that varies by individual.

I learned long ago not to get emotionally involved in the contract process. If we are given a contract, vote how you feel, if it comes to an impasse, there will be enough guys walking to make the point to the company, but, we aren't going to get to that point.

A Union is a necessary Evil. We all look at our leadership and question what they do. There is waste and no doubt corruption in our Union but for the whole, its doing for us what it should.

After being here for almost 20yrs, a contract will come when the company decides its time. Enjoy life, enjoy your family and vote how you feel when the contract is given to us, anything else is just a waste of your time.

And LLAP, goodbye Spock

RedeyeAV8r

My point is, if someone is going to post and suggest negative things towards ALPA leadership and cut and Paste the letter they suppose ably sent ALPA reps here on APC, thats fine, but post it on Jetflyers or Facebook and sign your name. Thats all.

BTW, nobody is Anonymous on here with respect to FedEx Legal. They know who all of us are.

ANCFRTDOG

In summation, the Corporation does not respect us so why settle?
Remember that each of us is ALPA not just the MEC or LEC's !

Viper446

[QUOTE=RedeyeAV8r;1865027]My point is, if someone is going to post and suggest negative things towards ALPA leadership and cut and Paste the letter they suppose ably sent ALPA reps here on APC, thats fine, but post it on Jetflyers or Facebook and sign your name. Thats all.

I agree. I'm Anc based and I don't know who the OP is. I have a guess. I don't need names, but initials might help. It would help to know who the OP is for credibility. Just my 8 cents worth.

And management doesn't know who I am, I am the Shadow!!!!

PS. Go Bears.

HKFlyr

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NoHaz

Any results yet???

TonyC

Are you interested in actual results, or just crystal ball readings?


Voting begins tomorrow.






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NoHaz

that explains it .... must be an international dateline thing