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Old 01-21-2007 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Sorry to pile on, but your first statement is exactly the reason why you've grown so slowly, while FedEx has exploded in pilot and aircraft growth. And besides, I'd like to see them (either UPS or FedEx) Next Day or Second Day Air stuff from China, India, or anyplace else outside the lower 48. It's never gonna happen.

Any of you guys working for UPS remember when your airline was just starting out and your management went to the truck drivers and asked if any of them wanted to be pilots? None of them said "Yes." Now that was classic.

Growing Slowly? Have a look see at each others respective main hubs for the first 8 months of 2006 Mem 2.5% growth SDF 10.7% growth. Might want to check your six I could throw stones back at you but I have too much respect for you and your co workers. Like I said in an above post BOTH companies didn't get were they are by not being the best!
http://www.aircargoworld.com/Graphic...46ACWD0107.pdf
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Old 01-21-2007 | 07:09 AM
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I could throw stones back at you but I have too much respect for you and your co workers. Like I said in an above post BOTH companies didn't get were they are by not being the best!
http://www.aircargoworld.com/Graphic...46ACWD0107.pdf
The object for both of us is to not let anyone else get in our knickers here in the US or abroad!!!

Neither company could operate if the the other went our of business quickly. FDX and UPS are kinda like what Fred says of our many diff companies...

"Operate independently but compete collectively"!

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ps Bought several beers for one of your 1st yr guys in CGN last weekend. D*m the night football games come on LATE over there!
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Old 01-21-2007 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Soyathink
Growing Slowly? Have a look see at each others respective main hubs for the first 8 months of 2006 Mem 2.5% growth SDF 10.7% growth. Might want to check your six I could throw stones back at you but I have too much respect for you and your co workers. Like I said in an above post BOTH companies didn't get were they are by not being the best!
http://www.aircargoworld.com/Graphic...46ACWD0107.pdf
Please don't misunderstand me. I wasn't throwing stones, just pointing out the fact that with more ground freight, there's less (domestic) air freight, and that's partially to blame for any lack of aircraft and crewmember additions. I'd never (well, almost never) badmouth UPS, after all, I used to be a crewmember there. But then I came to my senses.
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Old 01-21-2007 | 09:08 AM
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ps Bought several beers for one of your 1st yr guys in CGN last weekend. D*m the night football games come on LATE over there!
That was a great gesture, 130JDrvr! I try to do the same (mostly dinners since our layovers are so short), but I don't see too many of them due to the retreads. We have some newbies, but most go to the front seat nowadays.

I remember flying a trip with and IOE checkairman and a new CA in IOE, and the CA told me to remember to look out for the new guys once I got off of probation, as he picked up the check for every meal that week. Great advice!
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Old 01-21-2007 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Any of you guys working for UPS remember when your airline was just starting out and your management went to the truck drivers and asked if any of them wanted to be pilots? None of them said "Yes." Now that was classic.
You must be old.
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Old 01-21-2007 | 09:30 AM
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Just remember Busboy, neither company operates aircraft for your sake...
so if they could, they would get rid of hundred million dollar aircraft alltogether.
So aren´t we a happy bunch that are able to go to work inside an aluminium tube with rubberdog **** and cheap computers by the ton ?

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Old 01-21-2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Helo
Just remember Busboy, neither company operates aircraft for your sake...
Ohhhhh. My mistake. I've always thought of the aircraft as nothing more than a tool to get me to my next cocktail.
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Old 01-21-2007 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
That was a great gesture, 130JDrvr! I try to do the same (mostly dinners since our layovers are so short), but I don't see too many of them due to the retreads. We have some newbies, but most go to the front seat nowadays.

I remember flying a trip with and IOE checkairman and a new CA in IOE, and the CA told me to remember to look out for the new guys once I got off of probation, as he picked up the check for every meal that week. Great advice!
I try and help the first year guys. This guy was new to the rt seat of the 11. Called himself the IRO biatch for the pairing.

We had a 53 hr L/O and saw him both nights....

GO SAINTS!!!!!

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Old 01-21-2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 130JDrvr

GO SAINTS!!!!!
GO BEARS!
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Old 01-21-2007 | 06:45 PM
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GO BEARS!
Guess you win.....


I'll be nice now...

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