Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Cargo
Bullet train from NRT to KIX >

Bullet train from NRT to KIX

Notices
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines

Bullet train from NRT to KIX

Old 05-01-2015, 05:03 AM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Flaps50's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 FO FDX, C130 ANG
Posts: 538
Default Bullet train from NRT to KIX

Anyone taken the train to Osaka Namba Station from Narita lately? I've got a Deadhead and was considering this option next week, but I haven't personally done it before. Is there a first class option in the evening?

Thanks!
Flaps50 is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 06:45 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Adlerdriver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,987
Default

Originally Posted by Flaps50 View Post
Anyone taken the train to Osaka Namba Station from Narita lately? I've got a Deadhead and was considering this option next week, but I haven't personally done it before. Is there a first class option in the evening?

Thanks!
PM sent. Very easy. Bullets run every 10-15 minutes pretty much all day. Looks like the last one is 2123L. I think FC is always an option. That's called the green car.
Adlerdriver is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 07:54 AM
  #3  
Nice lookin' tree, there!
 
frozenboxhauler's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD-11, old man
Posts: 2,193
Default I've done both

You gotta do the Narita Express 1st Class AND the green car!
fbh
frozenboxhauler is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 08:24 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
The Walrus's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: Socket Drawer
Posts: 1,797
Default

Here is the gouge someone posted before on jetflyers.

NRT-KIX Bullet Train

-Get late checkout @1200 (or 0915 or 0745) from Hilton.
-Catch the 1220 (or 0930 or 0800) A/P bus to Terminal 2.

-At Term 2, take escalator or elevator down 3 floors to (1B) Trains.

-Go to Narita Express ticket counter (Red). You will arrive here @0+20 from hotel departure. Tell them you want the following:
-Ticket #1: 13:18 (10:18 or 8:53 or next available) Narita Express to Shinagawa within a Green Car (First Class) this leg is 1+05 block.
-Ticket #2: 14:37 (11:37 or 10:17 or next available provides a 0+15 turn = ample time) Nozomi Bullet Train (fastest, up to 270km/h or 168 mph) to Shin-Osaka (Green Car, ask for a "D" row window seat (16D preferred) if you want to be on the Mt Fuji side. This leg is 2+29 block with a 17:06 (or 14:06 or 12:43) arrival.

-Charge to your FedEx Crew M/C. Cost= ¥23,330 ($230.06 @101.41 as of 6/30/14). You will end up with three green tickets and one green receipt.

-Walk to gate (red signage). Use your basic fair ticket for the Narita Express, labeled "Narita Airport Terminal 2-Osaka City Zone" only (not your Shinagawa ticket) to get through the turnstile. Then down escalator one level to Narita Express (green signage) find your car (most likely #6 right turn at bottom of escalator) loading point & wait for your depart time. You will get to this point with about a 25 (or 10 or 25) min wait.

-Stay on Narita Express train through Tokyo until following stop at Shinagawa Station (14:22/11:22/10:02)

-At Shinagawa Station stop; get off and escalator up one level, go left to Shinkansen Line for the Nozomi train Put all three of your ticket stubs through the turnstile (one at a time), it should keep the one from the Narita Express. Grab a Japanese box lunch or Starbucks sandwich if desired before going down the escalator to Track 23 or 24 (Car 8-10). Current best estimated for the abeam point of Mt Fuji is ~0+34 from the Shinagawa Station departure. I only saw it on the first trip and did not get the time-marker for it. If anyone gets it, please let provide it back to me via [email]and I shall update this. That also goes for anything else you find in need of correction and/or refinement.

-At Shin-Osaka Station, escalator down one and out turnstile. Put all remaining ticket stubs (one at a time) through the turnstile (it keep them all). Then down one more level. Follow signs to Subway, (a jog right then left ) go left past McDonalds on your left and go to the ticket kiosk buy a ¥280 Midosuji Line (Red Line) to Namba Station ticket (M13 to M20), go through turnstile and take escalator to the right to "Namba" (Red) board #1 train on your right side at the top of the escalator. This last leg take 0+33 from the time you disembark the Bullet Train to arriving at the Swiss Hotel front desk.

-Get off at M20, go left to the elevator, up one level, and out turnstile (eats your ticket/receipt). Go South (straight ahead) and follow center walkway for about 300 yards following the red Takashimaya signs to escalators (x3) up to Swiss Hotel lobby.
or Exit #4 up to street level walk two blocks to Swiss Hotel lobby.

Last edited by vagabond; 05-01-2015 at 11:10 AM.
The Walrus is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 10:40 AM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Flaps50's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 FO FDX, C130 ANG
Posts: 538
Default

Thanks guys!
Flaps50 is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 11:04 AM
  #6  
Gets Off
 
md11phlyer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Nordskog Industries Field Technician
Posts: 688
Default

Also, if you are operating in, the ramp agent can and will walk you down to buy tickets before you get in the car to the Hilton. This way you can just show up after the layover and jump on the train. Just email them prior with a heads up and they'll take care of you.
md11phlyer is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 01:51 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Adlerdriver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,987
Default

Originally Posted by md11phlyer View Post
Just email them prior with a heads up and they'll take care of you.
Good point. This is a really good practice in general. I have usually avoided train wrecks (so-to-speak) by keeping the applicable ramps in the loop on deviation plans. The Japanese are especially appreciative of any efforts made in this area. At least partly because apparently the shore passes are station specific and have to indicate your travel plans correctly.

Last year, due to a revision after I got to the KIX hotel I ended up with a DH out of KIX. I deviated and chose to train to NRT and DH out of there instead. That required a completely new shore pass that had to be delivered to the Swisshotel before I could leave for NRT.
Adlerdriver is offline  
Old 05-01-2015, 03:15 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Flaps50's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 FO FDX, C130 ANG
Posts: 538
Default

Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Good point. This is a really good practice in general. I have usually avoided train wrecks (so-to-speak) by keeping the applicable ramps in the loop on deviation plans. The Japanese are especially appreciative of any efforts made in this area. At least partly because apparently the shore passes are station specific and have to indicate your travel plans correctly.

Last year, due to a revision after I got to the KIX hotel I ended up with a DH out of KIX. I deviated and chose to train to NRT and DH out of there instead. That required a completely new shore pass that had to be delivered to the Swisshotel before I could leave for NRT.
Wow, I'll keep the ramp in the loop for sure. Thanks for the heads up!
Flaps50 is offline  
Old 05-02-2015, 02:47 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 360
Default

I did this exact deviation this past Christmas/New Year's timeframe (2015). The detailed instructions in the post are spot on, and the whole thing is super easy overall. Two things I would mention- 1. The Narita ramp agent (while nice and super helpful) was aghast that we were taking the train at that time of year. Said we'd NEVER get a seat. The trains were empty. So, if something special is going on you should still not have a problem... There's so many trains running. 2. Follow the instructions exactly when you get to the mall/Swisshotel area. Easy to get turned around/lost in the underground mall.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BlackKnight is offline  
Old 05-03-2015, 10:07 PM
  #10  
Line Holder
 
Spanky's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: MD-11 CAPT
Posts: 30
Default

Walrus is dead on with his advice. I've done it that way numerous times. Key points to highlight 1). Change trains at Shinagawa station, a much smaller and easier to get around station. 2). Take a N (Nozomi train). Least amount of stops and faster door to door. 3) you can go online to the Japan rail central website (yes it is in English) and get the current timetables and fares. 4). They do sell food on the train but I recomend getting it in the station before you board.
Spanky is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rolling thunder
Asia
6
04-04-2014 05:00 AM
cbcfly
Cargo
3
12-16-2013 06:46 AM
vagabond
Hangar Talk
15
11-11-2009 06:40 PM
purple speed
Cargo
19
02-07-2008 07:39 AM
hschol
Cargo
7
01-22-2008 04:05 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices