FDX/UPS: Single Pilot Ops/Drones= THREAT?
05-07-2015, 04:00 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by LightAttack
I highly recommend drone/RPA private jets for all Google, Amazon, Apple and disgruntled former Naval Aviators (Missy Cummings - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central) - especially for any conference in Aspen during a blizzard.
by flying the airplane? (not that I think it's going to be an issue that needs solving)
05-07-2015, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper446
If you talk to anyone with any drone experience, ie military, this won't be a viable issue for probably 30yrs or more if ever. Every airplane would have to be modified at a huge cost, let alone are the air plane manufacturers going to make the mod? Then the redundancy is prohibitive. Who's going to control a single pilot or drone airplane as it crosses the ocean or enters another country? Who's going to prevent hacking/jamming once out of US airspace? Current military drones are crashing more than is published. Then there is the liability issue, first transport jet to crash and kill people is going to put a stop to the program. I don't see the FAA or American public being ever comfortable with single pilot or drone transport airplanes flying.
I'm not sticking my head in the sand, I've just discussed this with people who know more than I do about it. It not going to be an easy thing to do. After the Germanwings crash, you won't be seeing single pilot cockpits for a long time if ever, at least not in the next 30-40yrs.
I'm not sticking my head in the sand, I've just discussed this with people who know more than I do about it. It not going to be an easy thing to do. After the Germanwings crash, you won't be seeing single pilot cockpits for a long time if ever, at least not in the next 30-40yrs.
05-07-2015, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck
So.... The first flight out of the simulator will be solo?
Like the A-10?
Like the A-10?
So, unless you're thinking they're going to bolt an A-10 cockpit to the front of a 777F, I assuming (I know.... bad) that they're just might be room for an LCA along with the operating pilot.
Considering we use 3/4 pilots to fly 8+/12+ hours now, I also assume if this ever happened we wouldn't go straight down to ONE for those legs either. So, there would probably need to be someplace for the RFO(s) to sit in the cockpit too.
Shoot, unless everyone is going to ride offline to MEM, there might even be a few jumpseats in the cockpit and maybe even courier seats outside the cockpit. But....that's the last brain cell I'm going to waste on this.
Solving this problem is probably just below where to house my unicorn on my to-do list.
05-08-2015, 01:08 AM
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Part of the reason Military drones crash at a much higher rate is the design- very light wing loadings make for a very twitchy airplane to land, especially in any sort of wind.
Another problem- they go lost link all the time. That's prohibitive for now in and of itself.
The other thing I believe continues to be prohibitive is hackers and/or terrorists. Every time I see some instance of hacking I feel a bit more job security. If large scale drones are ever implemented I believe it's something hackers/and or terrorists will go after on a regular basis. Either to disrupt, attempt to control, or just jam the datalink or GPS signal.
Europe is far ahead of us in RPA acceptance and implementation. I keep my eye on them to see what the future will bring, personally.
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Another problem- they go lost link all the time. That's prohibitive for now in and of itself.
The other thing I believe continues to be prohibitive is hackers and/or terrorists. Every time I see some instance of hacking I feel a bit more job security. If large scale drones are ever implemented I believe it's something hackers/and or terrorists will go after on a regular basis. Either to disrupt, attempt to control, or just jam the datalink or GPS signal.
Europe is far ahead of us in RPA acceptance and implementation. I keep my eye on them to see what the future will bring, personally.
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05-08-2015, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pony172
Is it technically possible to fly a large drone aircraft? Absolutely. It is also technically possible to send a man to the moon and we did over 40 years ago. We haven't done it since. Why? Very expensive and the systems/hardware are intricate. I would worry about single pilot aircraft being monitored by a ground station/dispatcher before I would worry about pilotless aircraft. I could definitely see the industry using the pilot shortage as an impetus for going single pilot.
Come on man! You can't say stuff here that is logical!!!
This is APC. The Drones are coming!!! The Drones are coming!!!We tend to fear what we don't understand!
Very well said!
05-08-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
So.... The first flight out of the simulator will be solo?
Like the A-10?
Like the A-10?
It's possible I assume?
I saw a national news story this week about a "woman fighter pilot" climbing into her F-35 (solo!) for her first flight ... I guess the F-35 doesn't have a 2 seat version so that you have a babysitter in the back seat?
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