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Old 05-09-2015, 09:00 AM   #21  
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I hope the people with the 0200 briefs are putting their thoughts down in the surveys at the end of training.

I talked to the union about this, and also Captain/Captain, and they said without feedback, the company would just keep doing this to us.
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I hope the people with the 0200 briefs are putting their thoughts down in the surveys at the end of training.

I talked to the union about this, and also Captain/Captain, and they said without feedback, the company would just keep doing this to us.
I am doing the 2am sims right now...7 in row and then swapped to 8am for the MV. So the pain is great. I think everyone would agree that going from 10pm to 4am would be better than the 2-8am....but here's the rub...we can't. Why? Because an instructor grieved the 10pm to 4am saying he should he paid for 2 days for 1 event. He won that grievance and here we are left with the aftermath. Self-inflicted pain. So feedback won't do anything for this situation...plus the link is broke anyways.
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Old 05-09-2015, 01:51 PM   #23  
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I did 2am sims over a year ago. I guess the situation has gotten worse. Sigh.

I love the company's long term planning. We have more 757s than any other airframe yet we only have 5 sims. Thank God we got the fourth 777 sim for those 24 airframes. And to date I believe we still don't have a 767 LDS sim and probably will not for long time given the rumors.

"Relax... It's FedEx"
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I only count three....
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Old 05-09-2015, 04:03 PM   #25  
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I am doing the 2am sims right now...7 in row and then swapped to 8am for the MV. So the pain is great. I think everyone would agree that going from 10pm to 4am would be better than the 2-8am....but here's the rub...we can't. Why? Because an instructor grieved the 10pm to 4am saying he should he paid for 2 days for 1 event. He won that grievance and here we are left with the aftermath. Self-inflicted pain. So feedback won't do anything for this situation...plus the link is broke anyways.
Not sure how wining a grievance is a bad thing work the contract.
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Not sure how wining a grievance is a bad thing work the contract.
Easy for you to say, since you don't have any 0200 sims!
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Doing SIBA out here in Asia. On revision 10 with more to come. To say they are under staffed out here is an understatement. Meanwhile, some of the SIBA reserve guys are being used for domestic instead of being sent out to HKG or CAN to sit standby. NQR on the staffing.
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Easy for you to say, since you don't have any 0200 sims!
AHH its all about me I guess. Not saying 0200am sims are good but not ready to throw people under the bus. This needs to be addressed in the next contract.
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Old 05-10-2015, 09:43 AM   #29  
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Off-site training must cost a fortune! Sim rental time, contract instructors, travel, hotels, rental cars and per-diem

Back in WW2, when I went through MD-11 f/o training we were doing offsite Ground School at McDonald Douglas in Long Beach and sims in either Helsinki (FinnAir) or Zurich (SwissAir). We even did McDonald Douglas CMI which was a good thing because the FedEx CMI was subsequently decertified by the FAA!

While trying to plan my travel from Long Beach to Helsinki (with a few days at home in between) I became frustrated when "Memphis" couldn't confirm my schedule for the last week in Long Beach!

I called the MD-11 Training Manager and said, "Bruce (not his real name), let me tell you how they do training at other airlines. At other airlines your entire training schedule arrives in the mail 30 days before training begins. Unless you become a training problem that is your schedule! How come you can't tell me what I'm doing tomorrow!*?"

The industry knows that training can be accomplished MUCH more efficiently than we do it. I guess we'll just have to make it a contract agenda item if we ever want to fix? That's disappointing ...

As a side story; going through systems training and ground school with McD instructors was interesting. We had numerous systems discussions, "I'm going to teach you how FedEx says you're going to operate the system; then we'll discuss how the system was designed to be used." If we had a systems question that the instructor couldn't answer ... at the break, he'd go speak to the McD engineers and come back with Company schematic diagrams. That was REALLY GOOD training!


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Old 05-10-2015, 03:32 PM   #30  
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Are you sure that is true (or maybe someone "heard" it on the crew bus)? I know HKG pilots that are in 767 training in MEM today and have been for several weeks?


Yes it's true. Go to the 767 training letter and take a look. They moved all HKG training that was scheduled to start after 15JUN out to 11JAN16.

I also don't see how they are going to keep the IND pilots 75 current, let alone consolidated.

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