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Old 05-20-2015, 05:15 AM
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So 141 57FM training into new seats and they have 4 57FM set to replace them. I'm guessing the rest will be newhires. It looks like they are planning to pay a lot of Passover pay and just keep the 57FM seats filled, unless there's after the fact manipulation.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer View Post
I am not sure how passover pay works, but it would nice if the union would put out one of their "here's how to do this" emails covering passover pay.

I get it that you have to bid a higher seat and not be awarded it, but I don't get how percentage bidding would factor in.

I would think (I don't know) that you would have to bid a seat at 100% in order to get passover pay.

If you bid a higher paying seat at say, 70%, and they gave it to a new hire that is in the 99% range, how does that get you passover pay?
I am not a lawyer but my understanding is: If you are awarded it at 70% and the new hire activates before you do you would be eligible for Passover. Percentage bidding gives you a chance to control QOL and balance money. I would go to HKG if I could be 10%. But if I would rather be 10% in a 75 than 40% in a 76 and 20% in a 75 rather than reserve in a WB my bid would look like:

76H 10%, 75M 10%, 76M 40%, 75M 20%, 77-76-11-Bus 100%. That way I either get 75 at 20% or get a WB and become eligible for Passover.

This bid is a little different in that it you have to predict where you want to be 2 years out. If you think you might want to move in two years you might as well bid to get passover pay while you are waiting.

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Old 05-20-2015, 06:42 AM
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lack of 757/767 simulators,
Given the limited availability of 75/76 sims, is there an advantage for the company to hire 75/76 typed pilots with experience in type, such as a shorter curriculum requiring less sim sessions? Any word whether 75/76 typed applicants will be given any preferential look?
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Given the limited availability of 75/76 sims, is there an advantage for the company to hire 75/76 typed pilots with experience in type, such as a shorter curriculum requiring less sim sessions? Any word whether 75/76 typed applicants will be given any preferential look?
The company says that they are looking for 757/767 pilots, so I'd say you'd be given a preferential look.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jetdriven View Post
Given the limited availability of 75/76 sims, is there an advantage for the company to hire 75/76 typed pilots with experience in type, such as a shorter curriculum requiring less sim sessions? Any word whether 75/76 typed applicants will be given any preferential look?
I may be wrong but I believe they will use the previous experience for consolidation purposes. I don't think they've done that before but they may be desperate now.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:39 AM
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is there an advantage for the company to hire 75/76 typed pilots with experience in type, such as a shorter curriculum requiring less sim sessions?
There's not even a short course to go from the right seat to the left seat, if you're on the 767.....
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer View Post
I am not sure how passover pay works, but it would nice if the union would put out one of their "here's how to do this" emails covering passover pay.

I get it that you have to bid a higher seat and not be awarded it, but I don't get how percentage bidding would factor in.

I would think (I don't know) that you would have to bid a seat at 100% in order to get passover pay.

If you bid a higher paying seat at say, 70%, and they gave it to a new hire that is in the 99% range, how does that get you passover pay?
Just to clarify some things, if you have a specific question on bidding the union will give you an answer, if you call.

You will not get passover for a seat unless you bid and can hold it. The company can not put a new hire into a seat unless there is a vacancy. Therefore if you bid every WB seat at 100% it would be impossible to have a new hire go to a seat you didnt have a chance at. One caveat, it is probable that a new hire may not be put directly into a Mem 76 seat and if you are awarded it instead of another WB seat you would not get passover pay when they hire drectly into those seats.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:35 AM
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About 120 pilots on the practice bid have decided to stay in the 757 FO seat at narrowbody pay. The most junior of these would rather be 35% in the right seat of the 757 than collect WB FO pay for up to 2 years in Passover pay (while still in the 757) and then be either 69% in the Bus or 72% in the MD.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:45 AM
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It's a practice bid. No one has decided anything yet.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:09 PM
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So, Anymouse, I'm one of those. Are you guaranteeing that I will not be trained and paid passover? You know this for a fact?
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