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Old 05-21-2017, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Former AA Pilot View Post
I took an early retirement from AA at age 52 with my full pension in tact. I've applied to several companies but sort of stumbled upon WGA. Early this week, I had my initial SKYPE interview with HR, Chief Pilot and B747 Fleet Manager. It was an awesome, friendly but professional experience. At the end of the Skype, the HR rep looked at the other two guys and invited me to Miami this week for a sim eval, written test and in person technical interview.

Training was stated as $100 a day and then move to FO pay of $362 per day with a 17 day guarantee. All travel and hotel is paid for training and for the in person interview.

I was told they have around 70 pilots and intend to slightly more than double that number to 150-160. They operate 13 MD-11's and 2 747-400 freighters. Upgrade time can be anywhere from 3 months to 1 year depending on need and experience but DOES require a recommendation from a Check Airman.

I'm sharing this information so as to help anyone else interested in working for this company.

I would greatly appreciate any additional info about ANY and ALL aspects of being a pilot for WGA.

Thanks everyone and fly safely.
Thanks for posting. Interesting place for sure....I'm not sure but I think they are in the process of obtaining 13 MD11's. Any WGA drivers to clarify?
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Old 05-21-2017, 07:19 PM
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Thanks for posting. Interesting place for sure....I'm not sure but I think they are in the process of obtaining 13 MD11's. Any WGA drivers to clarify?
For the MD, There are 11 on the cert. another owned up in OSC that will come online eventually.

Also, theres a little over 70 MD pilots on list. Not sure how many 74 guys there are.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:32 PM
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I want to know how they operate 15 aircraft with 70 pilots...... even if you take a middle of the 7 pilots per seat and figuring they fly three man crews.... thats 21 pilots per aircraft.... meaning they have enough for 3 planes.... I just don't get it... hum.
They don't operate 15 aircraft, they have 15 aircraft. I always see 4-5 of their planes parked at RSW, probably more elsewhere. According to FlightRadar24 they have no planes in the air at this moment. Sounds like they have a lot of trolls posting here.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:01 AM
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Company I work for operates 2 747's with 11 pilots. It involves quite a bit of commercialling but is possible. At any given time there is at least one captain and 1 f/o on days off. Occasionally guys will break the 70 hr guarantee, once in a blue moon does one hit 100 hrs in 28 days.

@Cliffatp: difference with Atlas is that at Atlas you need to travel to your base before start of your days-on to sit reserve, for which you also get imputed tax income. First year at WGA should be a big improvement over Atlas if you cannot get based in the city where you live: travel on on-days, no imputed tax, if you are not needed, you stay home longer. Training pay is a lot higher, first year pay is a lot higher.
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Old 05-22-2017, 03:49 AM
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Company I work for operates 2 747's with 11 pilots. It involves quite a bit of commercialling but is possible. At any given time there is at least one captain and 1 f/o on days off. Occasionally guys will break the 70 hr guarantee, once in a blue moon does one hit 100 hrs in 28 days.

@Cliffatp: difference with Atlas is that at Atlas you need to travel to your base before start of your days-on to sit reserve, for which you also get imputed tax income. First year at WGA should be a big improvement over Atlas if you cannot get based in the city where you live: travel on on-days, no imputed tax, if you are not needed, you stay home longer. Training pay is a lot higher, first year pay is a lot higher.
First year compensation at Atlas is woefully inadequate.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:36 AM
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@Cliffatp: difference with Atlas is that at Atlas you need to travel to your base before start of your days-on to sit reserve, for which you also get imputed tax income. First year at WGA should be a big improvement over Atlas if you cannot get based in the city where you live: travel on on-days, no imputed tax, if you are not needed, you stay home longer. Training pay is a lot higher, first year pay is a lot higher.
Atlas doesn't pass WGA on FO rates until year 6 with new pay rates, At min guarantee, and its easy to go above min at WGA. And of course before imputed tax they do.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130 View Post
I want to know how they operate 15 aircraft with 70 pilots...... even if you take a middle of the 7 pilots per seat and figuring they fly three man crews.... thats 21 pilots per aircraft.... meaning they have enough for 3 planes.... I just don't get it... hum.
I don't know a lot about WGA, but I know that you don't need 7 guys sitting on top of each other to fly an airplane.

I do find this airline rather intriguing, but hard to get concise information on the place.
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Old 05-23-2017, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by overcast View Post
difference with Atlas is that at Atlas you need to travel to your base before start of your days-on to sit reserve, for which you also get imputed tax income. First year at WGA should be a big improvement over Atlas if you cannot get based in the city where you live: travel on on-days, no imputed tax, if you are not needed, you stay home longer. Training pay is a lot higher, first year pay is a lot higher.
I haven't had to travel on a off day in over a year and I have been imputed for one night in a hotel and one airline flight my whole time at Atlas.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
I don't know a lot about WGA, but I know that you don't need 7 guys sitting on top of each other to fly an airplane.

I do find this airline rather intriguing, but hard to get concise information on the place.
Most airlines staff at about 5-7 pilots PER SEAT ....factor in training... vacations... days off.... if like some one else said... they flew 2 747s with 11 pilots..... its a shoestring operation at best. It severely limits home much you can fly a plane..... when a plane is sitting its not making money.
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Old 05-24-2017, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Former AA Pilot View Post
I took an early retirement from AA at age 52 with my full pension in tact. I've applied to several companies but sort of stumbled upon WGA. Early this week, I had my initial SKYPE interview with HR, Chief Pilot and B747 Fleet Manager. It was an awesome, friendly but professional experience. At the end of the Skype, the HR rep looked at the other two guys and invited me to Miami this week for a sim eval, written test and in person technical interview.

Training was stated as $100 a day and then move to FO pay of $362 per day with a 17 day guarantee. All travel and hotel is paid for training and for the in person interview.

I was told they have around 70 pilots and intend to slightly more than double that number to 150-160. They operate 13 MD-11's and 2 747-400 freighters. Upgrade time can be anywhere from 3 months to 1 year depending on need and experience but DOES require a recommendation from a Check Airman.

I'm sharing this information so as to help anyone else interested in working for this company.

I would greatly appreciate any additional info about ANY and ALL aspects of being a pilot for WGA.

Thanks everyone and fly safely.
Thx for the info Former AA Pilot.. I have heard similar reviews about the interview process.. Very professional and friendly.. I would love to hear about your next step experience...

Have you heard anything about MD11 upgrade time?? I heard they were limited on eligible upgrade candidates and may have to hire Captains from the street..
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