mike734

Sorry if this question has been asked and answered but it looks like its not possible to get a ride to an international destination on UPS or FedEx. Can anyone confirm?

USMCFDX

FedEx no, sorry.

MaydayMark

When there was a Northwest Airlines, I believe that any ALPA member could jumpseat on any flight ... A UAL Captain neighbor of mine caught a DAL jumpseat to South America for a relative's wedding recently. Maybe DAL has been able to continue the old NWA policy?

If you're an ALPA member that might be a good resource?

Good luck, please let us know how it turns out ...

Lineslug

Also UPS no, sorry. Another option might be Polar or other supplemental carriers.

John Carr

There has to be a little more to the story. IF it was a UAL pilot "catching a DAL" JS out of the country, that means he simply used the JS privilege to occupy a vacant seat in the cabin.

Even though the TSA came out with a ruling years ago freeing up restrictions, we have yet to see any of it trickle down to OAL access to cockpit JS's.

And it's been repeated many times before. UPS/FedEx management simply chooses to not comply with some specific TSA security directives, hence no "International" Jumpseat on them.

The ACMI carriers DO comply with said directives, hence their ability to take OAL JS'ers on international flights.

That is assuming that there ISNT a restriction put in place by the SPECIFC customer that the ACMI carrier is flying for. I'm talking about contract carriage and NOT anything military/DOD related of course.

There were some contracts that Atlas/Polar had where the customer DIDNT allow any offline personel, only Atlas/Polars's people,
or the customer's people.

And before anybody flips out, NONE of the above is confidential information, NONE of the ABOVE IS SSI.

brn2fly1

I have jumpseated (in the cabin) internationally on US Airways, United, and Delta in the last two years. I heard AA is going to go with the US Airways policy for jumpseating. I hope so. I think you can jumpseat on Atlas also.

FlyMeHome

I talked to a AA captain about this a few weeks ago and he had someone jumpseat from Europe back to the U.S. on his plane. Didn't mention how long ago it was though

BlackKnight

Yes, in the cabin, no problem. I JS'd to/from Frankfurt on United, in the cabin.

Or are you saying they JS'd in the cockpit? If so, that's new.


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iarapilot

If there is a seat in the back, and the Captain says yes, you can JS internationally on any US carrier. I do it on UA and DL all the time.

whalesurfer

I do the same but technically we are not junpseating but non-revving. Sure, we get to fill out jumpseat forms and it's usually free (except taxes to some destinations), but if the cockpit jumpseat is open but there are no open seats in the passenger cabin we will be left behind. I know, potato, tater..