jungle

Yes, as the Kabuki unfolds according to script we may also expect multicolored lanyards to appear, threats of contract aircraft to cover peak and laments about profitability.

It is a pattern repeated every time, it is as old as the migration of birds and nearly as messy.

Standard stuff, remain calm and reload.

ClutchCargo

So. We can expect to see a UPS T/A in about a year then...


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jungle

Maybe, and the retro pay won't cover our cost. Just as the sun rises in the east.

Commando

It's BACK Pay. Not some BS Retro.

NoHaz

more like 50% on the back pay dollar "signing bonus"

GetRealDude

I wish the FDX pilot group had the cajones of the UPS group.
Over the course of unionized work on property, there is no comparison to the difference in unity and resolve between the two groups.

At FDX, it's all about the individual pilot - particularly in the short term.

Our TA will be distributed to all in the industry in short order.
Read between the lines.
This is a COLA TA with minor improvements and significant concessionary givebacks in QOL and productivity gains (scheduling).
Our union leadership touts it as industry leading.
For how long? A month?

The Delta pilots had the resolve to vote their concessionary TA down because they saw the crap-storm looming.
Unfortunately, we don't have the cajones at FDX to see it for what it is ... a POS TA.

FDXLAG

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BrC136cydlw

whalesurfer

Cliffs notes on this specific subject (of what I remember) from a gmm meeting.

To answer your question - it worked out GREAT! Approximately $1.4 billion in pay and benefit improvements back then. Within weeks negotiations switched from significant pay cut demands to large pay raises.

Your memory is faulty. There's no such thing as "too early" of a strike vote. Too early? Really? The union had been in fruitless negotiations for several years by the time the vote was taken.
The union communicates potential strike vote intentions to the mediators before such a vote. Had they felt it was too early they'd have expressed those views then. They didn't! While they'll never say do it or don't do it there's never any doubt of the mediators' opinions on such matters.

Don't know crap on the subject but I'm betting on a TA 6-12 months after the vote and the follow-up survey. Just my personal views on this.
I'm ready for the vote and I'm saving up just in case we get released. While most people say it'll never happen the union leadership was clear - be prepared because stranger things have happened.

Vito

Whale surfer,
Good response to ClutchCargo's statement. I was wondering why CC thought we somehow got screwed in the last contract round. the decline of our schedule quality occurred because of many factors not necessarily related to our contract ( at least most thought at the time of signing, before the company came up with some creative workarounds)

ClutchCargo

Thanks for the clarification. I never thought you got screwed. Just that it took 13 months to get a T/A from the time you took the strike vote.


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