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Amazon - Most Definitely Starting An Airline
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet
(Post 2085154)
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Not sure I would agree this is "starting an airline"..... sounds to me like ATI/ABX will be the airline.... with leased planes...
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Interesting that the agreement to operate planes is 5 years, but the leases on the actual planes will be 5-7 years.
Does ATSG have 20 767s available to use for this, or will have to source planes on the market or pull down DHL ops to cover it? |
I think there might be 767 freighters out there. I have a buddy who ferries 767s to a company that converts 767 passenger airplanes to freighters.
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I wonder who is going to do the hiring. ABX or ATI? Both?
Be interesting to see when/if they start ramping up. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 2085169)
Interesting that the agreement to operate planes is 5 years, but the leases on the actual planes will be 5-7 years.
Does ATSG have 20 767s available to use for this, or will have to source planes on the market or pull down DHL ops to cover it? 767-300s on 7 year lease 5 currently operating 7 from AC being returned from other ACMI gigs Purchasing 8 more -300s Fully deployed by 4Q 2017 (If I recall correctly from the call) |
Boeing is getting serious about building 767's again. The 767 line is mixed with the 747 line in Everett. I can see them phasing out the 747-8 soonish.
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I thing ABX started flying for Amazon in Sep2015??? It was 5 planes at one point. Other articles have stated that Amazon plans to grow their fleet...how big???????
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From another poster, on another website:
The move to 20 is official http://www.seattletimes.com/business...cargo-network/ "It's official. Giant retailer Amazon now has its own air cargo delivery operation. After running a secretive trial since last summer leasing five Boeing 767s from freight carrier Air Transport Services Group (ATSG) out of Wilmington, Ohio, Amazon has agreed to let ATSG run a dedicated air cargo network and expand the operation to 20 widebody cargo jets." "There's been speculation that as Amazon invests more in transportation it might do away with third-party carriers Fedex and UPS, and perhaps even emerge as a competitor to those companies by providing transportation services itself. But in a recent earnings call a top Amazon executive said that the company sought to complement those services, not replace them." "ATSG's shares closed Tuesday at $11.77 but jumped nearly 20 percent on the Amazon news to more than $14 per share in early trading Wednesday" |
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