Asiabound

There is a 747 class in training now. I'd imagine the next few classes will probably MD11 though, but then again they never announce any of these things.

Just word of mouth.

4runner

I don’t always post on ALPC forums, but when I do, it’s from the bidness class lounge on an international DH. This particular forum is awesome. There’s some real bad asses with some big cojones. I salute you, oh DEC Sky Gods.

JohnBurke

Small wonder.

Out Of Trim

Yeah, but gotta admit that s#i+s funny right there.

Worldguy

Bump.
Any good rumors at WGA lately? Newhire classes still underway? Any
Type-rated DEC MD11 hiring?

Cheers

tengssuuciurta

There's classes in progress, not sure if they're still doing DEC for the MD.

captjns

Is it true that WGA is hiring DECs into the -400?

Irishblackbird

I am curious about cargo, with no real experience in this segment. What is Western Global's schedule like? Is my understanding correct in that you are out on the road for 17 days straight? Is any of the flying scheduled, or do you sit somewhere with a plane waiting for the next haul? I have 8000 hours, multiple types, and 3000 hours jet pic, 1200 121 sic, but no 121 pic. Would this be competitive? Sorry if these question's have been asked before. Thanks!

Packrat

At least one!

Asiabound

Honestly, very competitive and you can probably go in as DEC. Bear in mind, you're very competitive for a Legacy, UPS, or Kalitta as well (if you have a four year degree).

As for our schedule, the company owns you for at minimum, 17, up to 20 days per month. All our work days are blocked together, no split lines. We can't bid actual flying anymore (we used to be able to bid the type of flying, AMC vs. LAN Cargo etc) only days you want to work. You will basically get the beginning, the middle, or the end of the month off. They can extend you by 3 days, up to 20 days total, which are marked on your bid awards for planning purposes (the days you could be extended I mean). Just plan to be gone the entire time, and you won't be surprised. In actuality, I have spent a fair amount of time in the slow season on home reserve, one of my fav parts of the job.

As for the actual flying it depends. If we do more than 1 leg and have to pick up cargo somewhere it usually takes 1-2 hours depending on how much they have to load, the paperwork, slot times, etc. When we do the UPS stuff in SDF, we can use the crew rest area and the sits are longer (as much as 6 hours) as we wait for the sort. We also have 1 leg days too where you fly for 10 hours and sit in Brazil or Africa for 5 days, or fly 12 hours to the sandbox and get 10 hours rest then fly back or anything in between. They give a lot of consideration to fatigue here, and in my exp min rest overnights are rare, I've never had a problem making a fatigue call.

In summary, you work 17 days ON/ 13 OFF, or 17 ON/14 OFF in a 31 day month, everything blocked together. W2 at the end of the year comes out to about the same as Atlas, at least until year 5 or so. Atlas and K4 have business class travel though, we don't.

Hope that helps, good luck in your decision. Can someone on the 747 PM me?