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Diesel8 10-24-2016 10:09 PM

FTFF;

Narcissistic rage, no impulse control, constantly justifying, and placing blame on others... sorta reminds me of... oh, never mind.

Hope you don't ever want a JS on one of those "scummy" ACMI's that you think you should kick while their down.

Returning you to your regularly scheduled thread.

wjcandee 10-24-2016 11:07 PM

The remote chance of an unanticipated transaction like a UPS purchase of Atlas is one reason that there's a 180-day termination-for-convenience provision in the Amazon CMI contract. It would also be typical to have a provision that gives Amazon significant rights in the event of a change of control of Atlas. It would be customary for DHL and other significant CMI customers have similar provisions in their contracts.

Amazon has a lot of options, and a lot of leverage, in the unlikely event that such a transaction were to be proposed.

For what it's worth, I don't see how paying a premium over market value to buy a company that has significant value as an ongoing enterprise is a cost-efficient way of acquiring airframes (which is the rumoured reason for the transaction). It worked with Airtran because its stock price was floundering and Southwest not only got a pile of airframes in one shot but also the opportunity to eliminate a direct competitor and thus to raise prices. This isn't analogous, particularly because a large percentage of the AAWS airframes are on long-term dry leases to others or already owned by others and necessary for their own operations.

zerozero 10-24-2016 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2230603)
And I'll never understand how guys like you have English proficient on your certs. As I wrote, after reading itsjustajob's long analysis on Atlas I joked that Atlas is really in the process of being bought itself thereby putting his whole theory in question. No big f'in deal; nobody being disparaged except those you are imagining in your own head.

Sorry amigo, but you weren't the subject of my post. I merely posted after you. I didn't think I have to explain myself because I didn't quote you. But Active Shooter was actually the target of my ire.

Feel better?
:cool:


Originally Posted by Active Shooter (Post 2229874)
No, they won't get a raise. They will get "Challenged". :D

:mad:

GlobalPizzaMan 10-25-2016 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Active Shooter (Post 2229954)
Cliff is...... Cliff. He was just as special when he was on FI and flying for USA Jet.

There is a reason that Atlas admits to recruiting and favoring guys like regional F/Os and others who are not competitive to get on with a major. Atlas knows those caliber of pilots will alway be enamored with the aura of the 747 and the street cred it would bring to those types of pilots.

I'm on this board for my own personal edification. Occasionally I have something to contribute and I do so, but all in all, I try to avoid the *ick measuring contests. However, this comment, I just couldn't scroll by without finding out what empowers you to be so condescending. You do realize the majors are predominantly hiring regional FO's right? Young ones at that. That now famous 4 month captain at Delta is 28 years old......I'm not sure where you are getting at with the "those caliber of pilots" comment. Where do the right caliber of pilots get their experience from? Millitary? As far as I'm concerned the only thing separating civilian track pilots and their millitary counter parts is a career choice. Let's not pretend the millitary is full of "Mavericks" and "Icemans." Im puzzled by your level of condesention. FYI, it's not "those caliber," it's "that caliber." The million dollar question is, what caliber are you? Reminds me of that old saying, "if you have nothing nice to say........"

727C47 10-26-2016 07:57 AM

The 747 has " street cred " with just about every phylum of pilots, especially the freight dog breed.

FTFF 10-26-2016 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by zerozero (Post 2230656)
Sorry amigo, but you weren't the subject of my post. I merely posted after you. I didn't think I have to explain myself because I didn't quote you. But Active Shooter was actually the target of my ire.

Feel better?
:cool:



:mad:

Sorry for the mistake. I redirect to Diesel 8.

As far as hiring trends go, I don't think it's a question of caliber. Seems they (DAL, FX, UAL) are targeting a certain profile of candidate and maybe placing more emphasis on corporate culture fit than we assume.

Lockheed 10-27-2016 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2219335)
For the KA guys who are not on the KA FB page - here is some info

This is the timeline we are working with

Right now we are working through the sections of the proposed TA to get them into the final form that can be presented to the group for ratification this process will take about a week or so

Then the 3rd week of this month the NC will meet with our counsel and Exco members for any final issues

We will meet with the company during the last week of Oct to agree to the final document - then the TA will go out to the pilot group

We want this done by prior to the 31st

Webinars and road shows will start the 1st week of Nov and will continue throughout the month

Voting will start sometime in the 2nd week of Nov - The voting will end on Nov 30th

If ratified the new contract will go into effect December 1st, 2016

All that being said - this is just our proposed timeline, something may arise that requires shifting it somewhat - so this is not in stone - but it is our plan

Gentleman your NC has completed a Final TA with Kalitta Air
the TA will be voted on by the KA exco and then the 1224 Executive Board
the crewmembers should have the TA sometime next week

Propstrike28 10-27-2016 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2232515)
Gentleman your NC has completed a Final TA with Kalitta Air
the TA will be voted on by the KA exco and then the 1224 Executive Board
the crewmembers should have the TA sometime next week

Great work guys, thanks.

JohnBurke 10-27-2016 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by GlobalPizzaMan (Post 2230715)
The million dollar question is, what caliber are you? Reminds me of that old saying, "if you have nothing nice to say........"

"Active Shooter" has maintained on several occasions that he is a higher level of pilot candidate than most, being a "tier one" pilot.

He wouldnt be allowed to trump himself up like that if it weren't true.

Embrace the arrogance.

Forty5N 10-27-2016 07:06 PM

Whats a tier one pilot?


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