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Old 12-01-2016, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Code Red View Post
All these improvements you mention of I had at a regional carrier a decade ago. Just average pay and average work rules.

Mgmt bought everyone off with money. Maybe the next one will be better.

I'm not sorry for knowing we're all worth more.
So tired of listening to you b1tch and moan about the contract. My guess is you have less than a year at K4. If it all so bad as you make out then please feel free to move on and watch for the door hitting you @ss on the way out.

There are plenty of us here that have had to endure the current CBA with it's holes and pitfalls that the company have used time and time again to their advantage. The TA is not a UAL or Delta TA, never was going to be, ignorance if you believe it was going to be, but it (TA) is better than what we currently have.

Some of your current remarks also make me wonder if you have taken the time to sit down and read and understand the TA? There are quite a few improvements in QOL etc., and to imply that it's the old senior guy's keep you and younger pilots down is pretty much insulting.

So again after you vote no please look for your dream job ASAP.
Thank you.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler View Post
So tired of listening to you b1tch and moan about the contract. My guess is you have less than a year at K4. If it all so bad as you make out then please feel free to move on and watch for the door hitting you @ss on the way out.

There are plenty of us here that have had to endure the current CBA with it's holes and pitfalls that the company have used time and time again to their advantage. The TA is not a UAL or Delta TA, never was going to be, ignorance if you believe it was going to be, but it (TA) is better than what we currently have.

Some of your current remarks also make me wonder if you have taken the time to sit down and read and understand the TA? There are quite a few improvements in QOL etc., and to imply that it's the old senior guy's keep you and younger pilots down is pretty much insulting.

So again after you vote no please look for your dream job ASAP.
Thank you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ this
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:39 PM
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Couldn't have said it better!
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Old 12-02-2016, 03:43 PM
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Old 12-02-2016, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler View Post
So tired of listening to you b1tch and moan about the contract. My guess is you have less than a year at K4. If it all so bad as you make out then please feel free to move on and watch for the door hitting you @ss on the way out.

There are plenty of us here that have had to endure the current CBA with it's holes and pitfalls that the company have used time and time again to their advantage. The TA is not a UAL or Delta TA, never was going to be, ignorance if you believe it was going to be, but it (TA) is better than what we currently have.

Some of your current remarks also make me wonder if you have taken the time to sit down and read and understand the TA? There are quite a few improvements in QOL etc., and to imply that it's the old senior guy's keep you and younger pilots down is pretty much insulting.

So again after you vote no please look for your dream job ASAP.
Thank you.
It's not an insult it's just the truth. I don't need to explain the demographics of the seniority list.

30-40M saved by mgmt stalling this entire process should show you there was a lot left on the table.

My conscience is clear.
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Old 12-03-2016, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler View Post
So tired of listening to you b1tch and moan about the contract. My guess is you have less than a year at K4. If it all so bad as you make out then please feel free to move on and watch for the door hitting you @ss on the way out.

There are plenty of us here that have had to endure the current CBA with it's holes and pitfalls that the company have used time and time again to their advantage. The TA is not a UAL or Delta TA, never was going to be, ignorance if you believe it was going to be, but it (TA) is better than what we currently have.

Some of your current remarks also make me wonder if you have taken the time to sit down and read and understand the TA? There are quite a few improvements in QOL etc., and to imply that it's the old senior guy's keep you and younger pilots down is pretty much insulting.

So again after you vote no please look for your dream job ASAP.
Thank you.

I find it curious when an individual that opposes the contract is told to look for their dream job. When a Delta pilot turned down their contract were those that voted against it told to look for their dream job? How about American, FedEx, UPS, Southwest or United, were these pilots told to look for their dream job?

I fail to understand why you and others use this analogy. Those that oppose this contract do so for valid reasons, and although I understand the appeal of the pay raise, the fundamental issues at Kalitta were not resolved.

So now that I have disagreed with you should I go look for my dream job too?
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:56 AM
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Did any of you listen to the webinars ?
Were any of your questions explained to your satisfaction?
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ex402dvr View Post
I find it curious when an individual that opposes the contract is told to look for their dream job. When a Delta pilot turned down their contract were those that voted against it told to look for their dream job? How about American, FedEx, UPS, Southwest or United, were these pilots told to look for their dream job?

I fail to understand why you and others use this analogy. Those that oppose this contract do so for valid reasons, and although I understand the appeal of the pay raise, the fundamental issues at Kalitta were not resolved.

So now that I have disagreed with you should I go look for my dream job too?
The difference is that you state your objections and accept that others may or may not feel that way. He states his opinion and the lowers the bar to personal insults anytime someone does not agree with him. For people like he portrays himself to be....move on if you don't like it here
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