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Old 03-05-2019, 11:21 AM   #71  
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This I also agree...however, when your chief pilot personally called the denied jumpseater to inform him that the captain operating the flight was not going to let him jumpseat...,,game changer! Iíve never denied anyone my jumpseat but if I did I would have had the stones to tell him. Why would your chief-clown do this?
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Here we go. Someone tries to address an important issue on this forum in a mature and professional way and instantly gets a childish response. If this response was from an ABX pilot, I, and many other ABX pilots wish you would refrain from posting your nonsense in the future. It is not professional. Grow up.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:09 PM   #73  
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Lot's of ABX threats to block ATI from all jumpseats industry wide for being "scabs" in the past.

I don't get this game by ABX - ATI has home basing, ATI pilots are getting to work if they need to.

If ABX goes down the jumpseat warpath here - could put a crimp in ABX pilot QOL - and for what?

Reality - ABX consider ATI folks scabs and scum in many cases. Is it possible an ATI pilots doesn't want ABX guys sitting jumpseat? Definitely! If ABX could screw over ATI they would, be it takeover of local, cram-down SLI or whatever (and no, ATI pilots did not all want the SLI)

Edit: Ooops, didn't see the first post was from 2017! I was getting deja vu. Hopefully this all dies down a bit.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:52 AM   #74  
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This I also agree...however, when your chief pilot personally called the denied jumpseater to inform him that the captain operating the flight was not going to let him jumpseat...,,game changer! Iíve never denied anyone my jumpseat but if I did I would have had the stones to tell him. Why would your chief-clown do this?
Unless there has been another change I don't know about recently, ATI's chief pilot is ex-ABX, and jumpseaters are allowed at the captain's discretion, not the chief pilot's discretion.

It's a good bet that given the other recent incident, there has already been communication from the chief pilot about denying jumpseats to ABX pilots without cause. I would imagine that the captain in question had a conversation with his chief pilot when he saw an ABX pilot on the release to tell him he would be denying the jumpseat anyway. I would also bet that the chief pilot tried to talk him out of doing that, and when he was unsuccessful, as a courtesy to one of his former coworkers, he made the call himself to save the prospective jumpseater the hassle of going out to an airplane he wasn't going to be riding on, and probably to provide an apology as well for not having corrected the problem already.
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Plus consider the fact that your chief pilot and vp of ops both crossed picket lines......,birds of a feather
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