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jonnyjetprop 06-01-2017 12:19 PM

Not enough charter lift
 
Facing charter shortage, college football reconsiders taking the bus - Chicago Tribune

mexipilot84 06-02-2017 07:25 AM

This why we're busy all the time! Fly a professional team, dump them off, go pick up NCAA team dump them off, return to city with professional team.

Walkeraviator 06-02-2017 07:34 AM

Middle man companies like PASS and Anthony Travel are going to have a real hard time finding lift for their customers.

i fly planes 06-02-2017 09:58 AM

The nice thing about legacies doing these high profile charters is that if your Boeing or Airbus experiences a mechanical sitting on the FBO ramp, you just send another Boeing or Airbus. Take one 737 out of service at any charter outfit and the cascading effects are remarkable for days.

mike sierra 06-02-2017 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by i fly planes (Post 2373107)
The nice thing about legacies doing these high profile charters is that if your Boeing or Airbus experiences a mechanical sitting on the FBO ramp, you just send another Boeing or Airbus. Take one 737 out of service at any charter outfit and the cascading effects are remarkable for days.

however that's why charter outfit are usually way cheaper

jonnyjetprop 06-02-2017 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by i fly planes (Post 2373107)
The nice thing about legacies doing these high profile charters is that if your Boeing or Airbus experiences a mechanical sitting on the FBO ramp, you just send another Boeing or Airbus. Take one 737 out of service at any charter outfit and the cascading effects are remarkable for days.

It's a love hate relationship with main line carriers. They touted their flexibility, but in practice it's not that simple. As the article points out, the main line carriers either have to guarantee the charter or use their back up aircraft to protect their mainline operations.

The mainline carriers seem to float in and out of the charter market. When they are in, the Supplemental carriers suffer. When they go out of the market, there's reduced supplemental lift to cover. I've seen this cycle numerous times with both military and civilian charters.

Braniff DC8 06-02-2017 10:08 PM

Interesting
 
I would think Xtra, Swift, Miami Air and Eastern, would love the news. It could be though, pricing! I am sure there are budgets and as 737-300s/400s wind down, the cost of an 800, smaller would be no use, is a bit more expensive. A D.O. from a charter carrier told me 800s are indeed expensive which may be why Xtra AND Swift are holding onto older models for now.

And a new 121 startup, Diamond Air, with 737s, is coming.

I want to resurrect ONA. After reading their history, "35 miles from shore", what could go wrong??? I'll be hiring for the L188, DC9, DC8 and DC10. New York base with lots of Hadj and Africa charters. Apply early to get a quick command! Whos in?

It keeps saying my inbox is empty.

Walkeraviator 06-03-2017 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 2373447)
I would think Xtra, Swift, Miami Air and Eastern, would love the news.

Eastern no longer exists.

HwkrPlt 06-03-2017 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Walkeraviator (Post 2373504)
Eastern no longer exists.

When did that happen? Nothing showing on their website

Eastern Air Lines Group, Inc - Airlines in the United States

pilot0987 06-03-2017 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by HwkrPlt (Post 2373515)
When did that happen? Nothing showing on their website

Eastern Air Lines Group, Inc - Airlines in the United States

They seem to have run into hard times since that lga excursion with the Vice President.


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