Atlas Air pilot negotiations
10-17-2017, 11:28 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid
Yes, but most have a question on the app asking if you've ever been suspended.
Any HR rep with half a brain isn't going to divulge employee/company details because they know when X employee finds out they are likely going to get sued for defamation.
Having said that, like others posted it's not illegal for them to disclose certain information on you, but it better be accurate. It's not defamation if it's true, but if they can't prove that concretely that's gonna be libel/slander in civil court.
Individual states will also have different laws concerning this.
Most corporations aren't willing to risk it which is why they direct their HR reps/managers to only verify employment dates, positions, and salaries.
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10-18-2017, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores
No...just...no..
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
Other airlines you apply to can only verify your employment dates and what they see on PRIA. Anything else is against the law.
It's date of employment, salary and "eligibility for rehire" that are legal questions.
Plus, whatever some HR person is willing to roll the dice on not getting caught.
10-18-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by stickwiggler
That's not completely true...
It's date of employment, salary and "eligibility for rehire" that are legal questions.
Plus, whatever some HR person is willing to roll the dice on not getting caught.
It's date of employment, salary and "eligibility for rehire" that are legal questions.
Plus, whatever some HR person is willing to roll the dice on not getting caught.
11-09-2017, 09:05 AM
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On the "Atlas has no schedules so the pilots are always making us late" case there were hearings last week so the judge will make a ruling sometime.
On the "We're just going to hand you a mashup of the Atlas and Southern contracts and call it good" case no court date for hears has been set.
On the "We're just going to hand you a mashup of the Atlas and Southern contracts and call it good" case no court date for hears has been set.
11-09-2017, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Groundpointfife
Any updates? How are those lawsuits going?
Pilots leaving in droves.
Losing flying to other carriers. Because we've become unreliable for amazon. Would think it's just a matter of time for DHL.
Running late on virtually every flight. We're not talking just minutes, we're talking in some cases, days. So as we cont ****ing off all our other clients. Probably lose some other big clients.
Our staffing issues will no longer be an issue when we lose enough clients to match the amount of pilots we can retain.
And to top it all off. We're a blink away from becoming a distressed carrier under the FAA.
12-03-2017, 09:53 PM
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I would assume there's a huge migration of pilots from Atlas to the legacy carriers right now. Is that true? I know there are some serious issues going on between management and the pilots but doesn't Atlas need a new contract to stop the hemorrhaging and keep themselves in business?
Or is it not that serious for them and they think they can survive just fine with the current contract?
Or is it not that serious for them and they think they can survive just fine with the current contract?
12-04-2017, 06:21 AM
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Can't find anymore recent numbers but Atlas hired 286 pilots in 2016. The seniority list grew by 118. One hundred sixty eight left, either retired (one or two a month on average), died (I believe just one) or quit. You do the math.
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