Lucifer

Oh, so you’ve all received 60 day WARN notices before August 1st for Oct then right?

Yeah, didn’t think so

Lucifer

Oh stop, you’ll give me a bad rap........

HavanaExpress73

I was talking about the other airlines. Yes, a few regionals have shut down so those pilots ended up out of a job early, but as of now there has not been a single involuntary furlough anywhere that's still operating. On 10/1 that will probably change, but as of now nobody has been furloughed. I don't know what Swift's plan is, but if 50% of the fleet is going to be parked for the foreseeable future, they will most likely do something. I'm sure that was probably one of the hidden reasons behind the creation of the new bases in cities that they know are next to impossible to commute to reliably, even before COVID, and the displacements of pilots to those new bases from MIA and homebase will force some guys to retire early, quit to do something else for a while, or become an excuse to fire people for not being able to get to work on-time in the coming months. If that doesn't work, I'm sure the WARN notices will be typed up before long.

hoover

swift has to do warn notices? I honestly have no idea. I was once furloughed from an ACMI while on vacation. That sucked when trying to non rev home and I had no idea I was furloughed.

Jeff90

I believe they must if they received cares act money?

HavanaExpress73

Even if they are supposed to, they probably wont, and act surprised when called out. Just like with everything else they do. A few names have already disappeared from the bid qual, even after everyone is supposed to come back from LOAs starting September. So as I've said earlier, I'm sure they are hoping that the new bases and impossible QOL will thin the herd a bit without them having to do anything.

mexipilot84

They did late in July $20 million.

Hellafo

Is that how much C***y's mansion cost?
Hella not surprised.

HavanaExpress73

https://therealdeal.com/miami/2020/0...nsion-for-15m/

15 mil.

Lucifer

That must have been decades ago. They've had to file WARN notices since 1988 for companies with over 100 servants. A 60 day notice (commonly called a WARN notice after the law that requires it) must be given prior to layoff/furlough.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/eta/layoffs/warn


Now the doom & gloom part (for the glass half empty folks)
For companies with less than 50 total layoffs, and a few other exemptions.... like:

Faltering company: When, before a plant closing, a company is actively seeking capital or business and reasonably, in good faith, believes that advance notice would preclude its ability to obtain such capital or business, and this new capital or business would allow the employer to avoid or postpone the shutdown for a reasonable period;

Unforeseeable business circumstances: When the closing or mass layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time that the 60-day notice would have been required (i.e., a business circumstance caused by some sudden, dramatic, and unexpected action or condition beyond the employer's control, such as unexpected cancellation of a major contract); or

Natural disaster: When a plant closing or mass layoff is the direct result of a natural disaster such as a flood, earthquake, drought, storm, tidal wave or the similar effects of nature. In such cases, notice may be given after the event.

Still, since this has been a known situation since May, claiming any of the exemptions would be difficult.... which is why most carriers that anticipated furloughs already sent the WARN notices. Both Spirit & Frontier have since announced no furloughs even though they sent the notices.