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Old 03-09-2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gearup1006 View Post
Yes poor runway choice, from what I understand the landing distance was over 6000 and the 6003 is from the start of the runway not the 1000 foot markers, so in reality they had 5000 feet. Wet probably standing water from a thunderstorm passing
Mr. Boeing defines landing distance as follows:

The reference landing distance is a reference distance from 50 ft above the threshold to stop based on a reference landing weight….
Adjustments are made for slope, wind, weight etc. Info is contained in the FCOM for deviations from standard paths and speeds.
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Mr. Boeing defines landing distance as follows:



Adjustments are made for slope, wind, weight etc. Info is contained in the FCOM for deviations from standard paths and speeds.
”Mr. Boeing” also said the MAX was a safe airplane. He’s a shifty SOB, I don’t know if I’d take him at his word.
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickhut View Post
”Mr. Boeing” also said the MAX was a safe airplane. He’s a shifty SOB, I don’t know if I’d take him at his word.
38 years on 737 as it morphed from the -100 through the MAX-9 and future -10, with magical STCs, I’d take Boeing at their word when it comes to landing performance… just saying.
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Old 03-10-2022, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Mr. Boeing defines landing distance as follows:



Adjustments are made for slope, wind, weight etc. Info is contained in the FCOM for deviations from standard paths and speeds.
And that's the factored landing distance as well. So if the book says 5990ft, in reality you use a lot less.
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Old 03-10-2022, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gearup1006 View Post
Yes poor runway choice, from what I understand the landing distance was over 6000 and the 6003 is from the start of the runway not the 1000 foot markers, so in reality they had 5000 feet. Wet probably standing water from a thunderstorm passing
Originally Posted by Brickhut View Post
”Mr. Boeing” also said the MAX was a safe airplane. He’s a shifty SOB, I don’t know if I’d take him at his word.
Landing distance at 121 ops is calculated touching down 1500' past the threshold to account for the 50' obstacle, and also includes the FAA factored distance percentage from AC91-79A which on a wet runway makes the landing distance close to 200% of what is actually needed. So landing on the 6,000 foot runway was probably doable, but like others have said, still not a great idea.
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:28 AM
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No defense for a bad runway choice made soley due to a 15kt crosswind. Boeing Shmoeing.
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Old 03-18-2022, 02:25 AM
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It would be nice to see what the data says. 6000ft is plenty to stop a 737.


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Old 03-18-2022, 06:00 PM
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March madness no doubt…lost a tire…whoopsie

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[QUOTE=Flybywyre;3390640]It would be nice to see what the data says. 6000ft is plenty to stop a 737.


Evidently not.............
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Old 03-19-2022, 03:27 AM
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Hmmmm too much attention in a short span of time
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