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Old 01-24-2019, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by randomroute View Post
Homebased lines for February average 12 days off with working stretches of upto 9 DAYS (including travel days). Trips are tentatively planned and subject to change. Remember you’re only getting paid for block time here. If you sit in a hotel and dont fly you're collecting guarantee. There appears to be no one breaking guarantee on the home-based schedule.



I would recommend pilots to steer clear of Swift until an announcement of increased pay is made. If you can afford a major pay cut and can wait for a captain upgrade you may be able to make a living.



Guarantee is 60x$66= $3960/month

...$3960x12= $47,520.



Can you survive off of that amount? After taxes are taken out? After you factor in costs of living on the road? Is the 737 that spectacular?


If you’re just making that amount you’re doing something wrong. When I started here in 2015 we just had a salary and block hour pay, my first year I still managed to make $60K as an FO it’s not that difficult, that’s not including per diem.

For home based pilots summer is when we can make a lot of good money. Even get to the point you time out! Now with Europe it’s a lot more opportunity for that. Behind home based you can save a lot of money too because team flying is catered, you always end up taking extras to the hotel, saves buku dinero.

Not to mention the airline miles and hotel points that save me thousands on vacation. Took the family to Disney world and just had to pay for park fees, air fare and hotel was free! Beats non reving any day!

If you’re just making the bare minimum not sure what you’re doing wrong. The pay is not spectacular for the industry of today. Even on a 4yr CA pay I’ve managed to make over 110K a year and I don’t pick up a lot of OT. The pay is something they’re working on, is that the company was sold even the coo is realizing the non competitive pay of today.

We proposed taking the bonus away and just giving everyone an hourly raise, you can make more money with the hourly raise than the bonus. The bonus was just a start. Least they did something. Personally I think the bonus cheapens the company image.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:28 AM
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Ive been infected with the “Tiredsoul” pathogen...I tried being a downer and thats the worst I could come up with.
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Old 01-24-2019, 05:43 AM
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Man they sure didn’t like you.... Swift PTSD.

We have people timing out for their 1000hrs in 365 days. So not sure what happened to you.
They increased the number of airplanes and can’t increase the crews sufficiently, that’s what’s happened.
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Ive been infected with the “Tiredsoul” pathogen...I tried being a downer and thats the worst I could come up with.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:09 AM
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They increased the number of airplanes and can’t increase the crews sufficiently, that’s what’s happened.


Well 27 acft on property. 2 in LIM getting painted and one NG from Europe.

We’re somewhere in the range of over 160 pilots right now. By summer we should have about 200. Our applicant pool has gotten better since airlineapps.

They’re definitely short captains, there’s an upgrade class going on now, mostly senior FOs. Problem we’re going to meet is no feds to do obs rides with the govt shutdown. Delaying progression ability.

13 in class from January, another 10 for feb. expecting March to be about 16 pilots.
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:53 AM
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With the iAerogroup purchase, I believe we will see Swift getting more 737NGs the way this last acquisition happened out of thin air. Keeping the current CEO in place is evidence that there is no plan to disrupt the flying or slow down. The pilot group is pretty cool. The only major issues/complaints stem around pay and scheduling. Both of these issues have been addressed by management in various company communications. The people in charge aren't morons, they know it's in their best interest to keep the labor groups happy and productive...in the modern world that means pay.



Personally, I believe scheduling QOL will improve when there are more pilots and the work can be divided more favorably. The pay will improve when the well runs dry. So basically we need more disgruntled ex-employees to leave negative reviews and bogus experiences that slow hiring and in a few months this place'll be the next Kalitta Air (Connie-not Jr.)


Side-note, have any of you guys seen the plus-sized models on IG?!?!
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Originally Posted by randomroute View Post
With the iAerogroup purchase, I believe we will see Swift getting more 737NGs the way this last acquisition happened out of thin air. Keeping the current CEO in place is evidence that there is no plan to disrupt the flying or slow down. The pilot group is pretty cool. The only major issues/complaints stem around pay and scheduling. Both of these issues have been addressed by management in various company communications. The people in charge aren't morons, they know it's in their best interest to keep the labor groups happy and productive...in the modern world that means pay.



Personally, I believe scheduling QOL will improve when there are more pilots and the work can be divided more favorably. The pay will improve when the well runs dry. So basically we need more disgruntled ex-employees to leave negative reviews and bogus experiences that slow hiring and in a few months this place'll be the next Kalitta Air (Connie-not Jr.)


Side-note, have any of you guys seen the plus-sized models on IG?!?!


As long as it’s plus sized bootaes that look as good as J-lo’s!
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:31 PM
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I was just curious to see if the minimum days off stayed at 15 for the Miami based pilots?
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Old 01-31-2019, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by randomroute View Post
With the iAerogroup purchase, I believe we will see Swift getting more 737NGs the way this last acquisition happened out of thin air. Keeping the current CEO in place is evidence that there is no plan to disrupt the flying or slow down. The pilot group is pretty cool. The only major issues/complaints stem around pay and scheduling. Both of these issues have been addressed by management in various company communications. The people in charge aren't morons, they know it's in their best interest to keep the labor groups happy and productive...in the modern world that means pay.



Personally, I believe scheduling QOL will improve when there are more pilots and the work can be divided more favorably. The pay will improve when the well runs dry. So basically we need more disgruntled ex-employees to leave negative reviews and bogus experiences that slow hiring and in a few months this place'll be the next Kalitta Air (Connie-not Jr.)


Side-note, have any of you guys seen the plus-sized models on IG?!?!
That’s so delusionally optimistic is almost endearing.
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That’s so delusionally optimistic is almost endearing.
The problem at Swift comes from the top. Overall it is a good group of pilots, working with poor dispatching, good mechanics working with no parts(a fly away kit, a wrench and speed tape won't fix everything). The way the company has grown is exciting but to me it is more scary than anything, it was an unplanned growth in which OCC lagged to support the operation. Management seems short sighted, not realizing the bull market for pilots. Swift being bought out sounds like someone grew the company, made a quick buck and got rid of it. Top management doesn't have a good airline record and that is worry some, not raising pay and not investing into the infrastructure sounds like another scumbag Miami operation.
Swift Air needs a union asap.
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