5 years of the best flying in my logbook. Boeing quit building airplanes when they discontinued the B727:(:mad:

I'd read the first post of this thread. My company has some Swift refugees and they've said the same thing.

Atlas Air...

They already do 767 flying for the Dallas Mavericks and Stars

That’s Yank praddle. You obviously haven’t flown the 757 replacement. The extremely capable 737-900...

The 727 was a rip-off Of the Trident and an inferior machine. I kid, I kid!!!

Guess what, Swift has finally got the attention of the FAA in DC. One could only wonder what will it take to get this company to follow the rules.

1- Tail strike in Europe
2- Off the end of the runway in Europe
3- Lined up for T/O on a taxi way in Newark.
4- Engine failure that ended up in a diversion to JAX on one
engine.
5- Emergency Decent due to loss of pressurization.
6- Several air returns with overtemp EGT red light on.
7- Hard landing in CCS with significant damage to the nose gear and
wheel assembly.

All of this happened within the last 3 months. When will the FAA do something. Or, will someone please call 60 Minuets at CBS to have a look, a la Allegiant Air.

They may be the cheapest in town, perhaps the only one in town, but this company is dangerous to the traveling public. Some mentioned that the sports teams are using Swift simply because of Economics 101, but I wonder how they would react if the actually found out about the problems mentioned above. And what is stated above may only be the tip of the iceberg, because they were not able to hide them.

If you are a Pilot or Mechanic at Swift Air, I ask that you expose their dirty deeds, on this forum, or any forum you find useful to help get the word out about this ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN, before lives are lost.

8. Unapproved parts
9. Mechanics doing work alone that should be done by two
10. Having to call MX so they can ‘prevent’ unnecessary write ups.

Oh and here’s a golden statement after many complaints:

“The customer (scumbag broker who steals the hotel points) negotiates Crew accommodation in the contract so there’s nothing we can do”

....as you get put up in the :
Econolodge that’s a 30 min ride away while there’s a Hilton Garden Inn in the parking lot of Cincinnati.

@MNPS, do tell about 3-4-7

Ah, did I mention Captains that call and get themselves the sweet deals and as an FO leave you out?
Thank you for the pleasure of flying with you today Captain A-hole.

11. The Crew that landed with what..3000lbs of fuel was it?
For the ones not in the know on a 737 the hydraulic systems are cooled by fuel through a heat exchanger in the tanks and therefore min fuel per tank is 1657lbs(?)..
So landing with less then 4000lbs is stupidity for more then one reason.

Well considering the blackhawks were on board when one of the acft had RTO in ORD after ingesting parts from a JAL 777 on the runway. It happens..... but that was not on their account. A lot of their happenings have been pilot induced.

So..... if you try to build a skyscraper, but refuse to pay for a steel foundation, don’t you share most of the blame when it comes falling down.

Mexi...you got out in time

JAL 777 is external, all the rest if it is internal.

But then who would expect them to shoulder any blame.

This may sound familiar “ WE DIDN’T TELL HIM TO DO THAT “

The building is falling down, let’s hope we can get everyone out before someone DIES...

Yep sounds like an operation ran by Boris , one of the biggest S.B in the industry , research his background , always leaves charred ground behind him .

Boris van Liar, so you got out Mexi?

What I’m curious about is how do they keep pilots in this job market?

Swift Air New Hire Bonuses...
 

Well, maybe your "curiosity" is the grounds for the Swift Air New-Hire Bonus posted on a Sept. 25th APC update as shown below:

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Swift Air is Hiring!
$25,000 New Hire Bonus
$3,750 after OE ( or after 3 months, 6 months, 12 months)
$10,000 after 24 months
Bases are now in MIA, IWA and home based.
Acquiring 2 NGs and 4-400s from Xtra Airways and flying contracts.
3 737-400 from Alaska Airlines acquired
Adding seasonal flying in Europe from may to September.
767s retired
Airlineapps no longer available
Established 1997
This page was last updated on: September 25, 2018 (Quicktake, Fleet, Domiciles)

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Not sure, but it is possible that it should say "and" instead of "or"
in reference to the $3,750 bonuses? So, $3,750 after IOE... and then again after months 3, 6, and 12 following IOE would equal $15,000.

Then adding the $10,000 bonus (after 24 months) is the only way I could come up with the posted $25,000 new-hire bonus.

Oddly, not a peep from any job seekers or current Swift Air pilots regarding this recent development?

Really it’s a band aid to a hemorrhage, COO sent an email about it saying that the salary is “competitive” not sure to who. Make more at a regional as an FO. Some regionals are offering almost 40K in bonuses plus higher pay rates and better work rules. Told CP for a year its better to raise pay rates instead of a bonus that puts ya back to low at year 2 and beyond.

9E, RP and even now OO with their raises the difference on base pay is minimal to swift. Premium pay and benefits are better at the regionals. Unfortunately I think these guys have missed the train and at this rate and recruiting methods they’ll keep attracting more Miami mafia pilots and people that just harm the airline further.

So I don’t know, I can only hope they get their act together, they take one step forward and 2 steps back it seems.

On the bright side some pretty junior FOs have either got the job offer at southwest and/or interview. So happy to see good people moving up and out!

Business 101 again. Bonus program: Hard money is just that, hard money, right now, TODAY! 24 months from now, half of your pilot group will have moved on, they get minimum. 24 months from now it is likely you will have a management change, be bought, sold, merged or outright shutdown, those who stay will get minimum also. The bonus program should be in reverse. $10000 right now. Smaller denominations as scheduled over the next 24 months. Otherwise “I will gladly pay you next Tuesday for a hamburger today”

The funny thing is many are still trying to get paid for over time, wonder how long it’ll take for bonuses to be paid out.

As the pilots of Allegient found out, the FAA really isn't **** and doesn't have your back.

Wait... they actually thought that? I'm not sure if that's sad or hilarious.

So where's the smart companies?
 

So where's a guy supposed to go to get a ground instructor job?


I have two decades of experience with a major carrier, but no certificates. Due to medical reasons I had to quit but that's all rectified now. In the meantime, the goalposts got moved and the mental geniuses in management everywhere from FlightSafety to every place in-between are demanding ATP's and 2500 hours to teach classroom and FTD's.


Meanwhile, out of the other side of their mouths, they are whining about the pilot shortage. They then complain they get a new guy to teach groundschool and six months later, that same guy, finding a flying job, leaves.



This helps to ruin classroom continuity, credibility and familiarity with line pilots or customers, depending on the training operation/outfit.


At the same time, these margin-pushers actually believe that their doors will be beaten down by retired airline captains who just can't wait to become ground instructors for 1/4 of their former pay, long hours and having absolutely no authority. In other words, at at least one carrier I'm familiar with, they had six of them quit in one month.



When my father retired, consummate aviator that he was, with over 35,000 hours said, "I do not want to look at another airplane as long as I live".



I can't imagine there are that many retired captains who feel so differently or have to maintain alimony/child support on previous personal obligations that feel they need to go get a $60,000/year job.


I have been through the gig enough times now where the interviewer is merely going through the motions. They want a pilot but none applied. They are holding out and at the last minute, they get the guy they want. Then they call me while avoiding telling me that guy they hired went off to go fly airplanes.



Plus, the ATP and 2500 "requirement" which seems to be the result of an urban myth that the "Colgan Rule" requires that. No...it doesn't. It does for FLIGHT training. But, systems and procedures...no. I have taught it all and have over 10,000 hours in the classroom and another 10,000+ in FTD/IPT. No full-motion sims as the ATP's and check-airmen did that. They loved that we got the pilots squared away on all the mundane/repetitive tasks for cockpit management and they praised us regularly.


But now, here we are and I have to say I think the problem is a combination of many things to include generational. The managers I've seen who are of my generation, I've noticed all my life that they are not very practical, problem-solving people. They are more lemming-like and unwilling to risk making a "bad" decision so instead, do what everyone else is doing because it's "safe". And they all think that demanding an ATP and 2500 hours will make better instructors. Instead, pilots use the ground instructor gig to keep a paycheck while they send resumes out for flying jobs. (Who would'a thunkit, right?)



Not taking it personally, but I've interviewed with many big names and didn't get hired. One large cargo outfit that lives in Tennessee, that I interviewed for a curriculum developer position actually told me, "We feel you would do much better here as an instructor." I said, "Great, when can I start?" and they replied, "Well, we can't hire you as an instructor because you don't have an ATP or any jet time...but we'll keep your resume and let you know.":mad:


As the story goes, they have a legal-beagle who is prohibiting the hiring of ground instructors without those quals. As was put to me by several people I know there, "We're frustrated! We have stacks of really great instructors with gobs of experience who would fill our ranks and stick around...but the legal department won't let us hire them!"


Meanwhile, my house is being foreclosed on, I've lost my shirt, can't pay my bills and have to go apply for welfare while I watch as everything I worked for for the past 40 years go *POOF* because "the industry" has its head up and locked. My experience has taught me that it takes ~6 years for the light bulb to get noticed (it's already been on for over a year) and someone to take bold action to get the instructor ranks filled and maintained.



Now....SwiftAir has been soliciting for ground instructors for months. Every other ad on INDEED is for them. I have applied and I tried calling their number in Phoenix. It used to ring and answer and give options. Now it's just a busy signal. I sent my resume to one of their major operatives and he assured me that they are up-and-running, growing, etc. And he handed my resume to the chief pilot. I found his number via a pilot jobs website.



I think, again, "the industry" is not well and my experience is showing me that training departments in majors as well as private concerns with places like FlightSafety have adopted a "square-fill" attitude towards it. The carrier I left had been telling us---"Just do what you do to get them through...they'll learn it on the line". I won't mention the name of the carrier that's based in Dallas that used to have an orange stripe on the side; That would be "unprofessional". In the meantime, all carriers like to claim their pilots are the "best-trained" while at the same time, cutting funding for training departments and the FAA is strangely quiescent about this. (????)


I interviewed to be an international procedures instructor for a private training enterprise but was told, "A G-V captain will immediately know that you've never done this for real." I bit my tongue short of saying, "SO WHAT?" This same guy, in the next sentence lamented how he can't keep instructors on the property due to the pilot shortage. I didn't mind his attitude half as much as I minded his opinion of me; He must've thought I was stupid. (IOW...how can I POSSIBLY train a pilot if I've never flown high-performance jet aircraft?) Ans: I'm smart and very keenly aware and have been around aviation all my life. I have flown in an F-16. been "surrogate instructor" for F-16 newbies, have some flying time and am keenly aware of time management/prioritization because of the day-to-day aspects of my job "flying" real-time trips in flight training devices...which....I guess to some outfits is tantamount to "kissing your sister". *sigh*



Meanwhile, my life is down the tubes and I need a job. I can teach an airplane like you wouldn't believe. I am patient, careful, attentive and will make SURE you do it right so as to avoid any pitfalls in an oral or SPV. I guess that makes me a dinosaur because managers seem to think that the learning portion of it should all be done by self-study and "pick it up as you go along".



Well, I have a picture of an A320 that was destroyed by a captain in Philadelphia because neither he nor the FO knew what the airplane would do if the V-speeds were not loaded into the MCDU. No one was killed but the six-month old airframe was a total loss. Training? "They'll get that on the line!"


I have a great respect for the profession of flying airplanes. It is, categorically, an unnatural place for humans to be and requires seriousness and due diligence to make sure things don't go wrong. I take pride in that I've trained thousands and lost only one to an oral exam; A guy who had been furloughed for seven years and was selling real estate. He had a "cascade failure" in the oral and it went downhill from there but he re-took it and passed and is still flying today.



Anyone got any ideas of who's hiring? That is, a place that won't simply dismiss me for not having an ATP.


I've applied to UAL, DAL, FlightSafety, FedEx, UPS, some small local outfits (who insulted me) and a few others.



Thanks for reading all of this. I am wondering if Swift is actually going to start their own training department or if it's another fantasy they have.

Wow that was a lot....

Swift has been touting getting their own training for years. Yet they’re still dependent on panam or FTI you name it those change as their performance suffers or betters.

They have a lot of hopes and dreams, but their execution sucks. Some of the check airman are qualified to do PCs but not type rides. As far as ground instruction, they use the former director of training who has retired to teach recurrent and they hired a former AA/US pilot for new hire ground last year.

So I’d take that with a grain of salt, bet they’ll call when you already have another job lined up, seems to always happen that way.

I'll likely be dead before that happens.



My point being that they so oddly believe that retired pilots automatically make better instructors. Well...not the ones I've seen. I'm sure some are quite capable but, especially at the Boeing TC in MIA, I watched as the retired captains did not instruct at all, shrugged their shoulders when asked questions and did not trouble themselves with the incredibly monotonous task of loading the FMC and watching for those common errors that can create problems, nor how to back out of them if they happen.


Huge amounts of "cruise-control" going on, collecting a paycheck and filling squares.



If I could, I'd just go drive trucks...but there's that medical thing.



I think the industry is very broken. As you said, Swift has many dreams but fails at execution...probably due to the people who they consult. The lack of intuition and basic understanding is palpable. So they look for "experts" whose expertise is actually just how to spend money.



I wish them luck...all of them. Accidents will start happening due to a great many reasons and then the "tombstone engineering and/or remediation" will occur. I'm not saying I want this to happen, no; I'm saying it will happen due to complacency and negligence.



Thanks for the reply. I didn't know their instructor is a AA/US guy. I might even know him. If that's the case and he saw my name...I guess I can forget about a job there.

No matter how good you think you are. Others are the judge of your greatness.

Good or bad. Aviation is too small a community to not go unnoticed.

I would agree save for that human-nature thing where, depending on one's level of "power", they can ruin a guy. I focus instead on being thorough and paying attention to my pilots when instructing, making sure they are "getting it".



A passion for the job is important. It's the most rewarding job I've ever had. It's especially nice since I still have contact with a great many of the pilots I've trained. I even had one in Miami stop their car, turn around and call after me when he saw me at the Boeing TC. Perhaps one of the best things I've ever experienced to be remembered so well.



Swift Air has tons of solicitations for ground instructor all over the interwebz....One would THINK that means they are looking for ground instructors. But...their phone number in Phoenix only gives a busy signal anymore. I suppose it could mean anything or nothing.

Manager of Training Jim Ellis
[email protected]

It's a tough decision but.....maybe it's time for a career change. Get a realtor license and make better money and be home. Or find something else you have always wanted to do. In avaition everyone has to have something on the back burner as a backup plan in case it all goes down the $hi!er.

I appreciate the suggestion. As a ground instructor, I was home every night. This in no way is a slam on the lifestyle of an airline pilot. Before diagnosed with this debilitating condition, I wanted to fly for the airlines someday too.


I'm no salesman. In fact, I couldn't sell a drink of water to a thirsty man. Guilding the lily and what-not are not in my skillset. I am looking at other career fields but 99% of them truly do not interest me and the rest are sales jobs. I know people who can sell condoms to lesbians...but I'm definitely not of that talent.



I take the blame for not getting more education in something I am interested in but maybe the state can help me with that. It's rough going but I still think the industry is "broken" and managers still believe that retired 747 captains are just going to fall all over themselves to beat down the doors of training departments. So far....I've not seen it.

Thanks PnP, I sent a polite inquiry with resume attached. See if it bears any fruit.



Much obliged.

Thanks. My other gratitude post got taken into the moderation ether...


No idea why.

When the wheels 1st started coming off at Abxair in 2009 after DHL bought Airborne Express and dicked it all up....a good friend of mine who was DC9 Captain could not find a pilot job in the US...he had a job offer to fly a 9 in Africa for 10k a month 5 mos on 1 mo off every 6 mos! I asked him if he was crazy? His answer was what else am I going to do? My answer was...anything!!!. He answered an add as a heating and airconditioning estimator at a big commercial company with no experience made north of 100k and loves it. As you say bankruptcy and losing the house are likely then....anything! Hell a store manager at Walmart pays 100k! I am sure you might not be interested in that but that is not the issue...keeping a roof over you head IS the issue! I was not interested in cleaning bathrooms at the gas station I worked at when I was 16 but after my mom moved out and my brother and I were on our own I needed the money! Get your A&P license you've got the time to do it! It will keep you around aviation. Look at all options..now is not the time to be picky.

ABteacher ... I don’t mean to be discouraging as I’m sure there must be a slot for you someplace but one issue you face is the available positions for ground instructors. When I started in 1979 you had ground instruction 8 hours a day for 2 plus weeks . Fast forward to 2016 and my last checkout and I had an instructor day one for System Qual review and another for 2 hrs on day 2 to administer the written test. Good luck I’m sure you will find a spot ..

I can relate; I was there!
 

This place is a complete joke of an airline; I was there for training as a First Officer, and coming from a reputable regional airline; I could tell right away this place does not have their act together. At first glance it looked like a very lucrative job; $66.00/hr, full pay in training at the min guarantee plus per diem and here's the catcher... 40hrs of pay for the 2 months of pointless CBT's you have to do before you show up to class. (we'll revisit the 40hrs pay subject later)
So comes the first day of class, there are six of us and it's in a hotel conference room, not even at the hotel we're staying at; we had to shuttle over to another hotel to use their conference room.. hmm okay. So on the first day, the CEO's daughter who works for the company comes in to take care of the drug and alcohol testing and I kid you not the first words out of her mouth were "You all are in for a very rude awakening." She didn't say "hi, hello," or anything; just sat in the back of the room with a scowl on her face the whole time. Then she assigned us another CBT on top of the many we already had to do, but this one was 3hrs worth of videos that were made in the 1980's about Drug and Alcohol abuse (had absolutely nothing to do with the 737 or company procedures) then it made you take a 15 question test which you had to score a 100% on otherwise you would have to go back and watch the full 3hrs of videos again to re-take the test. Literally everybody in class had to spend an entire day going through hours of videos to keep taking the test until we got all the answers correct. Our instructor even emailed her asking why this was necessary and she never got back to him. She changed the passing rate to an 80% only to go back and change it to 100%, failing me and two others forcing us to have to do it all over again. Very nice young lady to say the least…

The training was basically non-existent, not to rail on the instructor; he was a very nice man and genuinely cared about our well being however the company gave him nothing to work with at all. No syllabus or anything; we basically sat in class the first week going over Drug and Alcohol BS and pointless Ops Specs that had nothing to do with the type of flying that we were going to be doing. There was a former Director of Ops sitting in the back “monitoring the class” and every time somebody had a relevant question he would insult their intelligence with “Are you sure you’re an ATP rated pilot?” Like seriously dude? There was only one or two days where we actually covered systems on the 737 of the two weeks that I was in training. If you wanted to learn the plane before you got to sim, you had better teach yourself because they sure as heck aren’t going to do that. It was an all self taught course and the instructor was there to basically baby sit us. I have heard of people who are not prepared when they get to the sims and given the very few sim sessions you have, many people fail the check ride or the oral and end up tarnishing their FAA record for this place.

Then one day the lady who is in charge of payroll came in and we asked her if she was familiar with the new pay structure of full pay in training plus 40hrs of credit for the CBT’s on our first paycheck. She gave us a very vague response and danced around the question like a politician. So came our first paycheck and to my huge surprise I did not get even close to what I calculated I should get. I estimated we should get about 5k for two weeks at full pay plus per diem and 40hrs CBT pay. Nope, we all each got a whopping $1300.00. Nobody could honestly explain this to us and one of the guys in my class who was training as a captain noticed he got the FO pay rate instead of Capt. pay. That was when he had enough and walked out. The chief pilot came in after hearing of the captain quitting and asked “did this man quit” we said yes, to which the chief pilot yelled “GOOD,” then grabbed his name tag off the desk and ripped it apart into about 20 pieces and slammed it into the trash can. The next day we had to undergo TSA training because as a pilot with Swift you have to be a TSA agent too. Complete waste of time in that class, however that morning another guy in our class decided to quit as well. When the chief pilot heard of two guys quitting in two days, he came in the class with a bribe to us all (Dunkin Donuts) and said “Okay guys let’s eat and talk this over.” We stated to him the issues we had been having with our pay and that the company is not honoring what they said they would pay us. He then called the payroll department and had a 15min. phone call basically arguing with them the entire time trying to get us paid saying if they don’t pay us, the rest of us are going to walk out. Well that wasn’t good enough for payroll because they still refused to pay us. The Chief Pilot at this point “promised us we would get paid.” But by now we could all see that promised made are never kept with this company. Another guy quit and walked out shortly after.
Later that day the Chief Pilot and Director of ops came in the room with only three out of six of us still remaining and attacked us saying basically saying he didn’t like us and had no intention of keeping us around. Two guys immediately walked out which left only one remaining.
This is just my experience with Swift Air; a quick google search will reveal MANY MORE LIKE IT!
A person in upper management said they were shocked about the reviews and forum on airlinepilotcentral however, apparently they didn’t learn their lesson the first time around. Thanks again though for the Dunkin Donuts, it more than makes up for the $3000.00 which I am still currently owed!

This place is a complete joke of an airline; I was there for training as a First Officer, and coming from a reputable regional airline; I could tell right away this place does not have their act together. At first glance it looked like a very lucrative job; $66.00/hr, full pay in training at the min guarantee plus per diem and here's the catcher... 40hrs of pay for the 2 months of pointless CBT's you have to do before you show up to class. (we'll revisit the 40hrs pay subject later)
So comes the first day of class, there are six of us and it's in a hotel conference room, not even at the hotel we're staying at; we had to shuttle over to another hotel to use their conference room.. hmm okay. So on the first day, the CEO's daughter who works for the company comes in to take care of the drug and alcohol testing and I kid you not the first words out of her mouth were "You all are in for a very rude awakening." She didn't say "hi, hello," or anything; just sat in the back of the room with a scowl on her face the whole time. Then she assigned us another CBT on top of the many we already had to do, but this one was 3hrs worth of videos that were made in the 1980's about Drug and Alcohol abuse (had absolutely nothing to do with the 737 or company procedures) then it made you take a 15 question test which you had to score a 100% on otherwise you would have to go back and watch the full 3hrs of videos again to re-take the test. Literally everybody in class had to spend an entire day going through hours of videos to keep taking the test until we got all the answers correct. Our instructor even emailed her asking why this was necessary and she never got back to him. She changed the passing rate to an 80% only to go back and change it to 100%, failing me and two others forcing us to have to do it all over again. Very nice young lady to say the least…

The training was basically non-existent, not to rail on the instructor; he was a very nice man and genuinely cared about our well being however the company gave him nothing to work with at all. No syllabus or anything; we basically sat in class the first week going over Drug and Alcohol BS and pointless Ops Specs that had nothing to do with the type of flying that we were going to be doing. There was a former Director of Ops sitting in the back “monitoring the class” and every time somebody had a relevant question he would insult their intelligence with “Are you sure you’re an ATP rated pilot?” Like seriously dude? There was only one or two days where we actually covered systems on the 737 of the two weeks that I was in training. If you wanted to learn the plane before you got to sim, you had better teach yourself because they sure as heck aren’t going to do that. It was an all self taught course and the instructor was there to basically baby sit us. I have heard of people who are not prepared when they get to the sims and given the very few sim sessions you have, many people fail the check ride or the oral and end up tarnishing their FAA record for this place.

Then one day the lady who is in charge of payroll came in and we asked her if she was familiar with the new pay structure of full pay in training plus 40hrs of credit for the CBT’s on our first paycheck. She gave us a very vague response and danced around the question like a politician. So came our first paycheck and to my huge surprise I did not get even close to what I calculated I should get. I estimated we should get about 5k for two weeks at full pay plus per diem and 40hrs CBT pay. Nope, we all each got a whopping $1300.00. Nobody could honestly explain this to us and one of the guys in my class who was training as a captain noticed he got the FO pay rate instead of Capt. pay. That was when he had enough and walked out. The chief pilot came in after hearing of the captain quitting and asked “did this man quit” we said yes, to which the chief pilot yelled “GOOD,” then grabbed his name tag off the desk and ripped it apart into about 20 pieces and slammed it into the trash can. The next day we had to undergo TSA training because as a pilot with Swift you have to be a TSA agent too. Complete waste of time in that class, however that morning another guy in our class decided to quit as well. When the chief pilot heard of two guys quitting in two days, he came in the class with a bribe to us all (Dunkin Donuts) and said “Okay guys let’s eat and talk this over.” We stated to him the issues we had been having with our pay and that the company is not honoring what they said they would pay us. He then called the payroll department and had a 15min. phone call basically arguing with them the entire time trying to get us paid saying if they don’t pay us, the rest of us are going to walk out. Well that wasn’t good enough for payroll because they still refused to pay us. The Chief Pilot at this point “promised us we would get paid.” But by now we could all see that promised made are never kept with this company. Another guy quit and walked out shortly after.
Later that day the Chief Pilot and Director of ops came in the room with only three out of six of us still remaining and attacked us saying basically saying he didn’t like us and had no intention of keeping us around. Two guys immediately walked out which left only one remaining.
This is just my experience with Swift Air; a quick google search will reveal MANY MORE LIKE IT!
A person in upper management said they were shocked about the reviews and forum on airlinepilotcentral however, apparently they didn’t learn their lesson the first time around. Thanks again though for the Dunkin Donuts, it more than makes up for the $3000.00 which I am still currently owed!

True dat! I keep saying before long we will be doing our PC's on a laptop while sitting on the john! My company has dumbed down grd school to a home study course and 1/2 day systems review with a 20 question test when you walk in the door. With a couple breaks its about 3 hrs total.

Looks like ya'll got sold. Anyone know what's going on?

Any chance that iAero CEO is the same Robert Caputo that got nailed for $3mil of mail fraud in Nevada? Wouldn't really be a perfect Corrosion Corner story otherwise. I saw some of the other names connected to Air Methods and that Jumpjet private jet ride sharing deal.

Edit: Link to a press release naming some of the big players. It names iAero as "a leading integrated aviation business" with ramp space and MRO facilites at KMIA.

Anyone have a link?

Nevermind. Found it.

Application
 

Anyone currently with Swift mind PM-ing me? I have a few questions.

Planning to add 18 aircraft.