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FmrPropCapt 12-12-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Hellafo (Post 2723989)
Planning to add 18 aircraft.

Can't tell if joking... more 8s for you guys or what?

TiredSoul 12-12-2018 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Hellafo (Post 2723989)
Planning to add 18 aircraft.

Without a link or a source?

TiredSoul 12-12-2018 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by thepotato232 (Post 2723863)
Any chance that iAero CEO is the same Robert Caputo that got nailed for $3mil of mail fraud in Nevada? Wouldn't really be a perfect Corrosion Corner story otherwise. I saw some of the other names connected to Air Methods and that Jumpjet private jet ride sharing deal.

Edit: Link to a press release naming some of the big players. It names iAero as "a leading integrated aviation business" with ramp space and MRO facilites at KMIA.

This came up on google
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/23800663/Petty_v_Blue_Skies_Group,_LLC_et_al

and

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1037381/download

mexipilot84 12-12-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt (Post 2724056)
Can't tell if joking... more 8s for you guys or what?



3 more -300s from southwest coming in January.

Their saying addition of 18 more aircraft I guess after this deal is complete. Not sure to what kind of flying. Hopefully an increase in benefits and compensation to help boost.

1337pilot 12-13-2018 04:52 AM

Have they been filling classes as it seems like there is a class every few weeks? And the latest recruiting material says upgrades are down to less than a year if you're qualified with the 121 time.

mexipilot84 12-13-2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by 1337pilot (Post 2724236)
Have they been filling classes as it seems like there is a class every few weeks? And the latest recruiting material says upgrades are down to less than a year if you're qualified with the 121 time.



A class every month for the foreseeable future. Now on AirlineApps. Most junior CAs are April 2018 hires. 140 pilots on property. 30 aircraft in fleet by January.

hoover 12-13-2018 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2724144)
3 more -300s from southwest coming in January.

Their saying addition of 18 more aircraft I guess after this deal is complete. Not sure to what kind of flying. Hopefully an increase in benefits and compensation to help boost.

Oh man those 300s are used! They had 50% reliability when they were retired. Get used to sweating on a cool day. For whatever reason they could not stay cool. Took over 2 hrs to get cabin to manageable temps after takeoff.
Fun to fly tho. Handled nice

mexipilot84 12-13-2018 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 2724693)
Oh man those 300s are used! They had 50% reliability when they were retired. Get used to sweating on a cool day. For whatever reason they could not stay cool. Took over 2 hrs to get cabin to manageable temps after takeoff.

Fun to fly tho. Handled nice



Tell me about it any -300 sucks in the summer. One recirc fan, weak packs and crappy APU with not enough capacity.

captjns 12-14-2018 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2724809)
Tell me about it any -300 sucks in the summer. One recirc fan, weak packs and crappy APU with not enough capacity.

Not always the APU that’s bad... the air conditioning pack compressor impeller blades are usually worn out.

TiredSoul 12-14-2018 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2724926)
Not always the APU that’s bad... the air conditioning pack compressor impeller blades are usually worn out.

I think the term ‘weak packs’ kinda covers that.
What’s even more fun is doing a sub for an -800 and bringing a -300
Pandemonium.

captjns 12-14-2018 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2724981)
I think the term ‘weak packs’ kinda covers that.
What’s even more fun is doing a sub for an -800 and bringing a -300
Pandemonium.

Especially when you’ve got to leave 40 pax behind.:mad:

mexipilot84 12-14-2018 07:08 PM

Well it’s a weak APU when in the summer you can barely get 20% n2 during engine start on the -300.

TiredSoul 12-15-2018 11:37 AM

Looks like Swift just had an engine fire in MIA.
Fire crews at the F-gates.

Triggs 12-15-2018 06:34 PM

Haven't heard anything about it yet

mexipilot84 12-15-2018 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2725813)
Looks like Swift just had an engine fire in MIA.

Fire crews at the F-gates.



Hasn’t come down the grape vine yet.

AU MD FLYER 12-18-2018 12:26 AM

More "ICE" Flights for Swift Air?
 
I guess that this could help explain why Swift Air is acquiring more B-737 aircraft for future growth?



Deported immigrants get their last flight on 'ICE Air'


HOUSTON — Shackled at their ankles and wrists and their shoelaces removed, a long line of men and women waited on the tarmac as a team of officers patted them down and checked inside their mouths for anything hidden.

Then one by one, they climbed a mobile staircase and onto a charter plane the size of a commercial aircraft.

This was a deportation flight run by ICE Air. The chains would be removed and the shoelaces returned when the plane landed in El Salvador.

An obscure division of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operates hundreds of flights each year to remove immigrants.

Deportation flights are big business: The U.S. government has spent approximately $1 billion on them in the last decade, and the Trump administration is seeking to raise ICE's budget for charter flights by 30 percent.

ICE Air Operations transports detained immigrants between American cities and, for those with final removal orders, back to their home countries. About 100,000 people a year are deported on such flights.

While Mexican immigrants are generally flown to southern U.S. cities and then driven to the border so they can cross over, Central Americans have to be transported by air. And the large numbers of Mexicans who used to cross the border have largely been replaced by migrants from three impoverished Central American countries: El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

According to flight-tracking data, deportation flights to Guatemala and Honduras have sharply increased this year. And ICE's budget request for charter flights increased 30 percent last year compared to the year before.

The agency estimated last year that it spends about $7,785 per hour on the flights.

ICE shifted to chartering private planes about a decade ago after previously using a government service with the U.S. Marshals. The agency says moving to private flights saves about $25 million a year and gave it more flexibility.

Charter flights also avoid putting large numbers of deported immigrants on commercial planes, which requires buying tickets for deportation officers accompanying them, or holding them in the U.S. for longer than necessary and tying up space in detention centers.


1/8 SLIDES © The Associated Press
In this Nov. 16, 2018, photo, immigrants who entered the United States illegally wait to board a plane for a deportation flight to El Salvador by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Houston. An obscure division of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operates hundreds of flights each year to remove immigrants. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


"I don't want to elongate anybody's detention with us," said Pat Contreras, director of enforcement and removal for ICE's Houston field office. "If a judge says you need to be removed, we should be expeditiously working to execute that order so that person does not spend any longer in detention than necessary."

But migrant advocacy groups say ICE Air is an example of how tougher immigration enforcement — from detention to tracking to removal — enriches private companies.

"The way you would save money on ICE Air is by deporting fewer people, not by privatizing the industry," said Bob Libal, director of Grassroots Leadership, which opposes immigration detention.
"ICE is a largely privatized agency," Libal said. "In many ways, it's been captured by the industries that profit from deportation and detention."

The Associated Press observed a deportation flight being loaded last month at a private terminal of Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston.

The Boeing 737 had no markings suggesting it was a deportation flight. Instead, it had the insignia of Swift Air, a private company that also flies charters for political campaigns and professional sports teams, including the NHL's Boston Bruins and Chicago Blackhawks. In this case, Swift Air had been hired by Classic Air Charters, a Huntington, New York-based company that won ICE's deportation flights contract last year.

Classic Air has been paid $51 million this year by ICE, according to federal spending records. The previous contractor, CSI Aviation of New Mexico, was paid $906 million by ICE's removals division since 2010, when ICE privatized its flights.

When the plane landed in Houston, about 30 Salvadoran immigrants were already on board, flown in from Alexandria, Louisiana, an ICE Air hub. They peered out the windows as the plane sat on the tarmac.
Two buses arrived, carrying 45 men and five women. Their few belongings were in red mesh bags that workers sorted on the tarmac.
Officers checked each detainee before letting them board, a process that took about 20 minutes.

According to the agency, 29 of the 50 people who boarded the plane in Houston had been arrested on criminal charges, including four who were wanted in El Salvador for attempted murder or homicide, the agency said.

The remaining 21 were considered non-criminal, meaning they were being deported for immigration violations. Twenty of the 50 had been deported before.

ICE would not let AP reporters view the inside of the plane, but officials said the flights are orderly and quiet. A meal is served, and a doctor is on board. But all detainees — even those considered non-criminal — remain shackled until the plane lands.

"We try and be as humane as we can with everything that we do," Contreras said. "We try to make them safe. We want to make sure that not one individual does anything wrong."

TiredSoul 12-18-2018 03:28 AM

All correct except the meal.
The accompanying US Marshalls get beverage and food service from the FA’s.
Deportees can sit there and rot for all they care.

hoover 12-18-2018 06:40 AM

The deported get a meal. Usually a sandwhich, chips and an apple and water.
I've never seen mistreatment of any deportee

mexipilot84 12-18-2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 2727192)
The deported get a meal. Usually a sandwhich, chips and an apple and water.

I've never seen mistreatment of any deportee



They get a meal and water, the crew doesn’t get fed. You got to bring your own lunch.

mexipilot84 12-18-2018 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER (Post 2727052)
I guess that this could help explain why Swift Air is acquiring more B-737 aircraft for future growth?







Deported immigrants get their last flight on 'ICE Air'





HOUSTON — Shackled at their ankles and wrists and their shoelaces removed, a long line of men and women waited on the tarmac as a team of officers patted them down and checked inside their mouths for anything hidden.



Then one by one, they climbed a mobile staircase and onto a charter plane the size of a commercial aircraft.



This was a deportation flight run by ICE Air. The chains would be removed and the shoelaces returned when the plane landed in El Salvador.



An obscure division of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operates hundreds of flights each year to remove immigrants.



Deportation flights are big business: The U.S. government has spent approximately $1 billion on them in the last decade, and the Trump administration is seeking to raise ICE's budget for charter flights by 30 percent.



ICE Air Operations transports detained immigrants between American cities and, for those with final removal orders, back to their home countries. About 100,000 people a year are deported on such flights.



While Mexican immigrants are generally flown to southern U.S. cities and then driven to the border so they can cross over, Central Americans have to be transported by air. And the large numbers of Mexicans who used to cross the border have largely been replaced by migrants from three impoverished Central American countries: El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.



According to flight-tracking data, deportation flights to Guatemala and Honduras have sharply increased this year. And ICE's budget request for charter flights increased 30 percent last year compared to the year before.



The agency estimated last year that it spends about $7,785 per hour on the flights.



ICE shifted to chartering private planes about a decade ago after previously using a government service with the U.S. Marshals. The agency says moving to private flights saves about $25 million a year and gave it more flexibility.



Charter flights also avoid putting large numbers of deported immigrants on commercial planes, which requires buying tickets for deportation officers accompanying them, or holding them in the U.S. for longer than necessary and tying up space in detention centers.





1/8 SLIDES [emoji2398] The Associated Press

In this Nov. 16, 2018, photo, immigrants who entered the United States illegally wait to board a plane for a deportation flight to El Salvador by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Houston. An obscure division of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operates hundreds of flights each year to remove immigrants. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)





"I don't want to elongate anybody's detention with us," said Pat Contreras, director of enforcement and removal for ICE's Houston field office. "If a judge says you need to be removed, we should be expeditiously working to execute that order so that person does not spend any longer in detention than necessary."



But migrant advocacy groups say ICE Air is an example of how tougher immigration enforcement — from detention to tracking to removal — enriches private companies.



"The way you would save money on ICE Air is by deporting fewer people, not by privatizing the industry," said Bob Libal, director of Grassroots Leadership, which opposes immigration detention.

"ICE is a largely privatized agency," Libal said. "In many ways, it's been captured by the industries that profit from deportation and detention."



The Associated Press observed a deportation flight being loaded last month at a private terminal of Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston.



The Boeing 737 had no markings suggesting it was a deportation flight. Instead, it had the insignia of Swift Air, a private company that also flies charters for political campaigns and professional sports teams, including the NHL's Boston Bruins and Chicago Blackhawks. In this case, Swift Air had been hired by Classic Air Charters, a Huntington, New York-based company that won ICE's deportation flights contract last year.



Classic Air has been paid $51 million this year by ICE, according to federal spending records. The previous contractor, CSI Aviation of New Mexico, was paid $906 million by ICE's removals division since 2010, when ICE privatized its flights.



When the plane landed in Houston, about 30 Salvadoran immigrants were already on board, flown in from Alexandria, Louisiana, an ICE Air hub. They peered out the windows as the plane sat on the tarmac.

Two buses arrived, carrying 45 men and five women. Their few belongings were in red mesh bags that workers sorted on the tarmac.

Officers checked each detainee before letting them board, a process that took about 20 minutes.



According to the agency, 29 of the 50 people who boarded the plane in Houston had been arrested on criminal charges, including four who were wanted in El Salvador for attempted murder or homicide, the agency said.



The remaining 21 were considered non-criminal, meaning they were being deported for immigration violations. Twenty of the 50 had been deported before.



ICE would not let AP reporters view the inside of the plane, but officials said the flights are orderly and quiet. A meal is served, and a doctor is on board. But all detainees — even those considered non-criminal — remain shackled until the plane lands.



"We try and be as humane as we can with everything that we do," Contreras said. "We try to make them safe. We want to make sure that not one individual does anything wrong."



This is old news. Swift even appeared in Univision when some reporters rode along to Central America out of AEX.

The ICE market is pretty competitive. Now a days there’s just few carriers that can do this work which makes Swift the prime candidate for it. Business is big.

hoover 12-18-2018 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2727398)
They get a meal and water, the crew doesn’t get fed. You got to bring your own lunch.

When I did it years ago we got jason deli. Then I showed up for my 16hr day and was surprised no more meals. Never understood why they couldn't cater anymore .

mexipilot84 12-18-2018 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 2727576)
When I did it years ago we got jason deli. Then I showed up for my 16hr day and was surprised no more meals. Never understood why they couldn't cater anymore .



Yep nothing like doing a 12hr flight and no meal.

hav3atps 12-18-2018 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2727680)
Yep nothing like doing a 12hr flight and no meal.

In all honesty, have just been following this from the sidelines for some time:

You guys honestly do 12-16 hour stints with nothing to eat either provided or a place to to buy from? Do you just pack your own meals to bring with you? Seems inhumane..

Hellafo 12-19-2018 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by hav3atps (Post 2727692)
In all honesty, have just been following this from the sidelines for some time:

You guys honestly do 12-16 hour stints with nothing to eat either provided or a place to to buy from? Do you just pack your own meals to bring with you? Seems inhumane..

This is completely unacceptable and I can't believe Swift Air pilots haven't tried to do something about this. For he Miami doubles in Miami the don't provided catering, they provided Subway.......................:rolleyes:

hoover 12-19-2018 01:21 PM

There used to be a guy in Columbus, Georgia that owned a McDonald's and would bring the whole crew McDonalds everytime we landed there. Just to be nice

PICsf340 12-19-2018 03:28 PM

Training agreement
 
Anyone know what kind of training agreement is in place for new hires?

mexipilot84 12-19-2018 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by PICsf340 (Post 2728192)
Anyone know what kind of training agreement is in place for new hires?



There is no training agreement

Deluth16 12-21-2018 06:02 PM

No food
 
No food? Difficult especially if you’re just going to fbo’s (popcorn).
How long away from home?
Day off guarantee?
Commutable?
Hotels?

mexipilot84 12-21-2018 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Deluth16 (Post 2729326)
No food? Difficult especially if you’re just going to fbo’s (popcorn).

How long away from home?

Day off guarantee?

Commutable?

Hotels?



There’s food on VIP flights, not on ICE or Cuba.

Trips are 4-8 days on

12 hard days off they’re trying 14 off in MIA next month.

Commutable can be depending on what you bid. We have commuters but not many. Home based well it’s that you’re home based . MIA has a bit of everything and so does IWA.

Hotels only if you’re on a trip outside of your base or you’re on home basing. If you’re IWA/MIA based you need a crashpad or maybe you’re local.

PICsf340 12-23-2018 01:19 PM

Commuter policy
 
Any insight as to what kind of commuter policy Swift has? I assume a bew hire will go to MiA until you can be home based? As always, concerned about what happens if you miss a flight.

mexipilot84 12-23-2018 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by PICsf340 (Post 2730384)
Any insight as to what kind of commuter policy Swift has? I assume a bew hire will go to MiA until you can be home based? As always, concerned about what happens if you miss a flight.



Depending on the situation if you’re commuting to your trip and can’t make it in chances are they’ll buy you a ticket. However if it happens more often than not they will question you about it.

It’ll probably be about 6 months or more for home basing then you don’t have to worry about commuting.

Prettywhacked1 12-23-2018 08:49 PM

Good Lord....
Why in God’s name would anyone work under these conditions, in this hiring bonanza?
Swift Air must be taking a page from Connie Kalitta and hiring the felony/multiple violation/DUI crowd.
Yeesh.

mexipilot84 12-24-2018 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 (Post 2730599)
Good Lord....
Why in God’s name would anyone work under these conditions, in this hiring bonanza?
Swift Air must be taking a page from Connie Kalitta and hiring the felony/multiple violation/DUI crowd.
Yeesh.



You’d be surprised how many of those are at regionals or even the majors for that matter. Most of them screwed up and are trying to surge from it.

As far as making things better hope the new owners invest in the employees. Time will tell as the hiring boom hits here and recruitment becomes increasingly difficult. They will have to change to adapt to the changes in the industry. Change or be left behind.

captjns 12-24-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 (Post 2730599)
Good Lord....
Why in God’s name would anyone work under these conditions, in this hiring bonanza?
Swift Air must be taking a page from Connie Kalitta and hiring the felony/multiple violation/DUI crowd.
Yeesh.

There should be a yellow flag for plagiarism:mad:

sky jet 12-25-2018 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 (Post 2730599)
Good Lord....
Why in God’s name would anyone work under these conditions, in this hiring bonanza?
Swift Air must be taking a page from Connie Kalitta and hiring the felony/multiple violation/DUI crowd.
Yeesh.

Maybe in 1995. Connie now has a line of pilots wanting in and can be pretty selective. You need to update your brain to version 2.1.

Boats and Hos 12-25-2018 10:53 AM

With respect Mexi
 
Can you please stick to Swift information and not Endeavor. You left Swift and took the 10,000$ from EDV and then quit to go back to Swift. Some of us are still at EDV. Yes, it’s a choice. A choice not to go to places like Swift. You keep posting as though you are still at EDV when you are not. Thank you.

Hellafo 12-25-2018 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2729392)
There’s food on VIP flights, not on ICE or Cuba.

Trips are 4-8 days on

12 hard days off they’re trying 14 off in MIA next month.

Commutable can be depending on what you bid. We have commuters but not many. Home based well it’s that you’re home based . MIA has a bit of everything and so does IWA.

Hotels only if you’re on a trip outside of your base or you’re on home basing. If you’re IWA/MIA based you need a crashpad or maybe you’re local.

There isn't food on any flights except Venezuela flights, and it's because it's catered by Laser or Avior.
The VIP flights you can eat the left overs from the teams, at the end of the day. Do you like feeling like a dog running for scraps? I don't.
ICE has some really long flights that are not catered, absolutely inhumane. I was at a regional for 7 years and let me tell you, QOL took a major hit coming to Swift. Leadership thinks they are competing with regionals, that's laughable. They fly 737s for (+& sake not a 50 seater, and they don't want to pay up.
You'll be sitting RSV at places like ACY with no daily credit towards your MMG. Meaning you will not be able to break guarantee if you are homebased....no minimum day pay, no minimum trip pay.
In MIA you have to call to get released everyday even though you are a line holder.

Did I mention there's no 401k?

randomroute 12-25-2018 07:05 PM

Burning the agitprop of the apparat.
 
It appears that Seift may not be the “cup of tea” for some pilots...the same way 121 night cargo or expatriate contract flying might not be the “cup of tea” for other pilots. I’ve noticed through a quick scroll through of this thread-that there are a few names that keep popping up with negativity. Do they work at Swift? Where do they work? Why do they devote so much time to comment on a corporation that isn’t affected by their existence?

Lets be realistic, Swift isn’t a major league operation, so can you reallllly expect major league work rules and pay? It would seem that change can be affected from within, especially in the competitive regional flying market.Time will tell...

I was inspired to post tonight because of a comment about Mexipilot not being at Endeavor anymore...

...lets take a logical trip through a simple reasoning exercise. Endeavor is a top tier regional airline, with leading pay. They have a very selective recruiting team, which leads many to question (on the Endeavor sub-forum/board) ways to be more appealing or even receive notice from the HR department. If Mexipilot did work for Endeavor, and it is known, wouldnt the shady past of Swiftair and his flying ‘past/history’ make him an undesirable candidate for hire? Lets go further, if Mexipilot could make it through 121 AQP training at Endeavor (where he most certainly could be considered for a captain slot (as quite a few Air Wisconsin/Expressjet pilots have) and have an interview at Delta in a matter of months, why would he give those two lucrative prospects up to go back to Swift? Even further, if Swift were such a sweat shop, why would he return instead of going to any other regional airline?

The disconnect seems to be made in perception and personal opinion as opposed to reason. Alot of you ‘sweaty pitted’, ‘baggy shirt wearin’, ‘instagram flexxin’, ‘backpack wieldin’-Ivy League aviation scholars fail to realize in this industry that people can go wherever they want, to fly. As long as there are planes, there will be pilots to fly them. Your threshold for pay and QOL may not be the standard for another. There have been a few Swift pilots that have been hired into legacy airlines-so it cant be the sharthole some would like it to be, or make it appear to be.

TiredSoul 12-25-2018 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Hellafo (Post 2731262)
There isn't food on any flights except Venezuela flights, and it's because it's catered by Laser or Avior.
The VIP flights you can eat the left overs from the teams, at the end of the day. Do you like feeling like a dog running for scraps? I don't.
ICE has some really long flights that are not catered, absolutely inhumane. I was at a regional for 7 years and let me tell you, QOL took a major hit coming to Swift. Leadership thinks they are competing with regionals, that's laughable. They fly 737s for (+& sake not a 50 seater, and they don't want to pay up.
You'll be sitting RSV at places like ACY with no daily credit towards your MMG. Meaning you will not be able to break guarantee if you are homebased....no minimum day pay, no minimum trip pay.
In MIA you have to call to get released everyday even though you are a line holder.

Did I mention there's no 401k?

+1
This ^^^
......(filler)

motorclutch 12-26-2018 05:31 AM

Plus u get to work for David Speaks. Fired for in competence from ABX. A true dumpster fire.


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